Smoke bombs flares etc.

**Anto McC** · 23/11/2007, 7:39 PM

Originally Posted by half_full

A protest in Merrion Square might not be a bad idea...

As well as the normal reasons for it being pointless, the FAI, as of today are no longer based in Merrion Square.

Anyone know how to get to Abbotstown?

**bray boy** · 23/11/2007, 8:41 PM

i honestly cant believe this
THERE WAS A PROTEST ON THE 2ND OF NOVEMBER IN MERRION SQ.
about 8 people turned up.
and everyday there is people compliang about the fai john delaney on this site
unbelieveable.

**bray boy** · 23/11/2007, 8:43 PM

oh yeah we were told by the fai heads that abbotstown is near the aquatic centre

**half_full** · 23/11/2007, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Anto McC

As well as the normal reasons for it being pointless, the FAI, as of today are no longer based in Merrion Square.

Anyone know how to get to Abbotstown?

I knew they were moving, but not so soon...

**BohsPartisan** · 24/11/2007, 12:20 AM

Originally Posted by the seagull

i honestly cant believe this
THERE WAS A PROTEST ON THE 2ND OF NOVEMBER IN MERRION SQ.
about 8 people turned up.
and everyday there is people compliang about the fai john delaney on this site
unbelieveable.

If you are going to have a propper protest you really need to build for it. You can't just advertise and expect people to turn up. You need an organisation that people affiliate to and trust. The fact that no one really knew who organised that protest didn't really help.
There have been attempts at setting up supporters organisations before but they have gone awry for various reasons. I'm setting up something with likeminded people. Its open to everyone who agrees with basic principles -
Stop arbitrary fines.
Freedom to stand if you want.
Accommodation for Ultras to carry out displays without any repression.

I have some other ideas for demands too but thats a basic programme for the time being. Its aimed at both the Ultra groups and anyone else who agrees with the general principle.
Anyone who is interested PM me. State if you are a member of an Ultra group and if so which group.

**Sam Savic** · 25/11/2007, 1:50 AM

Originally Posted by sligoman

Don't ask me, it's what the FAI say. Flares can only be used when controlled...:

No one from the FAI made any such statement.

**CollegeTillIDie** · 25/11/2007, 7:44 AM

Well good luck to whoever wants to set up a supporters association for ELOI fans.
I was involved with the first such grouping back in the 1990's and from experience only a small number of people end up doing all the work and when they get fed up the thing normally falls apart.

**BohsPartisan** · 25/11/2007, 9:32 AM

I'm not really thinking along the lines of a full time association with all the trimmings. I think thats where the previous attempts went wrong. This would be more along the lines of a loose alliance of already existing fans groups at the various clubs and any other individuals who want to help co-ordinate a series of protests on these key issues and if that goes well we'll see where we take it from there.

**sligoman** · 25/11/2007, 1:14 PM

Originally Posted by Sam Savic

No one from the FAI made any such statement.

Who are you to tell me nobody said such a thing? Maybe not to you.

Noel Mooney said it and last time I checked, he works for the FAI

**jebus** · 25/11/2007, 1:17 PM

Originally Posted by Sam Savic

No one from the FAI made any such statement.

I think they did alright. Something about obtaining permission from them and then have someone in charge who knows what he's doing, or some such nonsense

**Sam Savic** · 25/11/2007, 7:42 PM

Originally Posted by sligoman

Who are you to tell me nobody said such a thing? Maybe not to you.

Noel Mooney said it and last time I checked, he works for the FAI

Good. Get it in writing so. You'll be waiting a long time though. I'll reiterate what I said to you already - no one from the FAI made any such statement. Send them a simple e mail. Print the reply you get on this forum.

**sligoman** · 25/11/2007, 8:32 PM

Originally Posted by Sam Savic

I'll reiterate what I said to you already - no one from the FAI made any such statement.

Maybe you just didn't read what you've quoted there but I already said, Mooney has said it. I don't need to justify anything to you by sending an e-mail to the FAI so go away now.

**Anto McC** · 25/11/2007, 9:49 PM

Sam Savic is right lads, just check it out if you want.

**sligoman** · 25/11/2007, 10:06 PM

Originally Posted by Anto McC

Sam Savic is right lads, just check it out if you want.

He's clearly not right though Anto. I've already said Mooney said it. Maybe they've changed there mind since but he's clearly wrong when he says no one from FAI ever said it.

**Conor H** · 25/11/2007, 10:10 PM

In fairness to Sligoman GUFC were also told that controlled flares were permitted.
When we played Sunderland flares were allowed on the pitch as the teams came out after consultation with the referee and FAI officials before the match.

**sligoman** · 25/11/2007, 10:12 PM

Yes and we were given permission, from the FAI, for a 'display' for the final home game Vs. Cork this season

**Sam Savic** · 26/11/2007, 5:22 AM

Originally Posted by Conor H

In fairness to Sligoman GUFC were also told that controlled flares were permitted.
When we played Sunderland flares were allowed on the pitch as the teams came out after consultation with the referee and FAI officials before the match.

They weren't flares Conor. Fireworks are a different thing. And certain smoke displays are permitted. However, flares are not permitted at football grounds under any circumstances.
No problem with a firework display under controlled conditions.

**Anto McC** · 26/11/2007, 7:58 AM

Originally Posted by sligoman

He's clearly not right though Anto. I've already said Mooney said it. Maybe they've changed there mind since but he's clearly wrong when he says no one from FAI ever said it.

He said no one from the FAI made any such statement, if he means an actual official formalised statement, then he is right. Noel Mooney may have said to you but if you go looking for an official statement, you'll be a while looking.