This web site describes in more detail and in as simple way as possible, where a country stands in the Uefa national rankings and how it got there, use of shades and different font colours is a bonus.Originally Posted by joe_denilson
joe_denilson said the following after our recent loss against Iceland:Earlier it was mentioned that Romania didn't play friendlies in order to boost their first pot seeding potential in the WC qual draw. I see the main benefit of that ruse has fallen to Poland who are cruising at the top after beating the (false) first seeds 3 nil
Would having used a seventh sub, beyond the six we actually used, have nullified the loss, as far as ranking points were concerned?
Subs are agreed before the match - the fourth official would have just said no.
You mean the fourth official would have refused us permission to use a seventh sub against Iceland if we'd requested such permission? So can the teams agree before the game to limit themselves to, say, three subs or seven subs - whatever their mutual preference may be - and the fixture would still count towards both teams' ranking either way?
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-soc...0EF18T20140604
Maybe the 4th official could have stopped it but worth a try.FIFA's rules limit the number of substitutes allowed in a competitive match to three - and six for friendlies.
Belgium made seven changes during the match, in which Nacer Chadli and Kevin De Bruyne also scored for them and Aurelien Joachim for Luxembourg.
FIFA said in an email that it would not recognise the game as an "A" match.
However,
Spain tried something similiar
http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/25138160
But Fifa ratified the game because Spain lost, so they likely would have ratified our Iceland loss also.
Man up Danny, Ireland were shamed and given a football lesson in their own back yard by a tiny populated arctic island. Just take the beating, the null ranking points and move on
As it turned out, Iceland got more ranking points from beating poncy Ireland in a friendly than they did for beating a grit laden Kosovo away in a WC qual, in a duel to the death in Albania (xxx more scary than Transylvania after sunset).
I think if either side gave a football lesson that day then it's one everyone in attendance would be better off forgetting. One of the worst games I've seen, and I've seen us play a lot.
In June 1st rankings - Ireland will hold 26th placed by themselves with Northern Ireland slipping to 28th! Don't know why the reason though! Does Ireland v Mexico match have any bearing on these rankings in June 1st?
Will the Fifa ranking position play a part in the seeding for the WC play off draw? It could be interpreted that the top 4 seeded teams will be decided on position in the runner-up table.
WCQ Uefa round 2
The ranking position won't matter at all when it comes to the draw for the group stages of the world cup, for those teams outside the top 7.
they haven't even said whether or not the playoff draw will be seeded (have they?) but it has been in the past. it was fifa ranking that was used for 2014 though so one would expect similar.
They didn't divulge the play off seeding criteria in the WC 2018 competition regulations but I see they didn't divulge this either in the 2014 competition regulations. It's most probably as you say, seeding by Fifa rank is the (secret) default.
What's the latest on this?
We've taken over the world.
Likely to be ranked 29th
Selected Others:
England 13th
Wales 20th
Northern Ireland 22nd
Scotland 60th
Austria 38th
Serbia 43rd
Georgia 113th
Moldova 158th
Yup, we're down three places to 29th despite the draw against Austria and victory over Uruguay: https://www.balls.ie/football/fifa-w...ly-2017-368386
Holland are now in 32nd, which is their joint-worst ever ranking. Peru are a surprise in 14th.
If you click on Ireland in the Fifa rankings list, you'll not only see the ranking points gained but also the ones that fall off the radar and Ireland had two good wins fall off, reducing the effect of the recent win and a draw.
What's clear is that we need to win the group or I fear we will lose the play off, judging by the list of top seeded teams who may come second in their respective groups
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-35901614.html
We relied to much here on drawing games - like drawing against Austria was poor and it will cost us later this year! ... Cant afford to that in these competitions!
We took four points off Austria, the top seed in the group when the draw was made. I doubt that'll be what ends up costing us. After the first match in Belgrade people were saying those "two points dropped" will cost us later on. Anybody would think we're the only team dropping points in the group. We're in a position we could only have dreamt about really. Any kind of an ugly win in Georgia will set us up for a home match that could all but guarantee top spot.
I'm as frustrated as the next man at some of the conservative tactics and team selections, but we're exactly where we would have wanted to be. It's only results from here on that can't really damage us I think.
Last edited by DeLorean; 06/07/2017 at 2:46 PM.
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