QuoteWell this is Ireland, so that's unlikely. Following the Stadium Developments of any LOI side that attempts to renovate is a Glacially Slow experience.Originally Posted by redobit
There might be no money to do it, but there is another reason for the phased work. Lets say you get a small portion of money and the project runs smoothly with no headaches, well then you are highly likely to get more money. But if there is problems with the initial allocation of money - things like, if you go over budget, or it takes forever to get through the planning process or the construction period is dragged out. Then getting another round of money is less likely. It has to be run well, on-time and in budget.
Manager: Fergal, have you your boots with ya?
Fergal: Ya, I have them here.
Manager: Ah good stuff, well give them to this man so, he forgot his!
Well this is Ireland, so that's unlikely. Following the Stadium Developments of any LOI side that attempts to renovate is a Glacially Slow experience.
Martin McGuinness said that the money for Phase 2 was guaranteed.
Not sure what the story is with that now, but I'd be more hopeful than usual that the money will appear, if only because SF candidates don't want a hard time on the doorsteps.
The planning system in this country is deeply flawed. It wasnt helped by the brown envelope mentality in the past and now the ott use of ABP particularly in dealing with objections that have little basis for objection bar the mischievious types who object to every damn thing they can. Referral to ABP is now mostly a tool to 'prove' transparency to the process which isnt really what ABP is for. They are overwhelmed as a result.
People generally dont attend planning consultation events for projects but then have conniption fits when planning is granted. It's soul destroying to have jumped through all the hoops, met all criteria set out by a councils enviorns development plan, have planning granted only for an objection made to ABP, adding up to a year on the planning process (and also the potential for some judicial review if ABP bin the objection), and often for tweaks to the plans all that is needed and should happen at local level.
Once planning is granted then its a different story where delays happen especially with funding (planning objections causing a mess with drawing down grants), tight budgets meaning not being able to tender to specialist stadia construction companies and then the usual lost build days due to weather. Not paying up for a good project manager always costs in the end too.
One objection that still rankles a bit from a past work life was against a small rural clubs training floodlights seemingly going to disrupt sleep patterns of livestock in the vicinity. ABP were then involved and the solution was simply adjusting the focus of a floodlight, just the one, and it took 9 months for this to be resolved - the club would have lost the grant due to the timing/delay bar for some common sense thinking from the dept of sport at the time. The objection was made by a chap who was involved with another club so just a messer waisting a lot of peoples time!!
Last paragraph there Nesta99,was it Bellurgan Utd?
Nah, it was in mid-Louth.
I only saw it from the car but looks like site notice is up at Tallaght Stadium now so I'd guess building is going to start soon, it's refreshing to see a league of Ireland building project run on schedule.
SDCC you mean
If that's what it looks like from Twitter I'd love to see what it looks like from the sky.
No, SDCC builds run on time all the time.
I think the Brandywell will look a pretty decent ground if Phase 2 ever gets done. What side of the ground will the TV gantry be on ?
Media room and gantry are to be in new stand.
this link to planing might work http://epicdocs.planningni.gov.uk/Sh...f-adfb33ff02a4 Otherwise there link elsewhere in this thread
As phase one is centre block, and phase 2 is side, don't see why wouldn't be in phase 1
Would you like me to call oriel parks redevelopment, if it ever starts, a casey family build oposed to a league of ireland one? Or Dalymount a dcc build? Its a ground used predominantly for league of ireland football with a league of ireland club as anchor tenant therefore its a league of ireland build. You do realise there is a difference between owner and use of a place yeah?
The Casey family trust own the land on which oriel park is built on. A nominal fee is paid and a long term lease is in place.
The stand and adjoining amenities are owned by dundalk fc. It's an entirely different scenario than rovers tenancy with SDCC or bohs impending one with DCC.
Uparade works on tallaght stadium and it's build has been done with taxpayers money. Unfortunately provincial clubs do not get the same treatment as the dublin clubs
So if the FAI or the govt offer money i guess you will be turning it down ?
Nope I would not turn any funding down.
Fair enough, neither did we
Martin McGuinness is dead though, Derry has no MLA's in senior positions, and there is no government at Stormont anyway to allocate funding for things like this. So I wouldn't hold your breath.
If Ireland wins the right in November to host the 2023 Rugby World Cup then you might see things happen on stadiums in the north suddenly. Without it, they'll probably go the way of everything else up there without a government.
I bet not but did all the funding go to what it was allocated for prior to the Tallaght SRFC project being taken off the club....
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