I wouldn't complain. He's come on a lot under Koeman and his coaches this season. I assume they're following him to Everton.Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Sky had their usual space filler stats this time about Euro 2016. They including such fascinating statistics as who had the most dribbles in the box (open to misinterpretation). Anyway, the one that caught my eye was "Who gave away the most fouls" and our own Shane came in 5th place. He did seem to be pinged a lot for what looked like dubious decisions but I wonder does this stat indicate a certain frustration for Shane in the tournament as he strove to make an impact?
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
He has a habit of cornering defenders and then, while they are struggling, instead of letting them try and turn and then block them he just continues into the back of them. This makes it too easy for them.
In his defence, the ref gave a decision against him in the Belgium game when he just left the two defenders compete for a header against each other. It was surreal.
The women of Southampton rejoice.
https://twitter.com/SouthamptonFC/st...rc=twsrc%5Etfw
New four year deal for Long.
I was looking at his record on Wikipedia. He's nothing but amazingly consistent: Pretty much 1 goal for every 4 games he plays no matter whether it's club or country.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Yeah, consistent in an overall sense, but he's fairly streaky too I think. As in, he seems to go on little runs where he'd score four in five or five in six, but then have a drought of ten games or more, like he appears to be on at the moment. Was he dropped at the weekend or carrying a knock I wonder?
Closer to 1 goal in every 3 games when you factor in starts.
Then there is the fact that he doesn't rely solely on goals and also contributes greatly to overall play.
I'd imagine it affects ones confidence when you know you are going to get dropped after 2 or 3 games when you don't score.
Perhaps the reason Graziano Pelle flourished is because Southampton kept faith in him even after (twice) going on runs of not scoring in 14 or 15 odd games.
Fluffed two good chances at 1-1 away to Arsenal today. Must be the club's mismanagement of him.
Incorrectly booked for simulation when he should have had a penalty, and incorrectly had a perfectly good goal disallowed.
http://www.skysports.com/football/so...swansea/35638156: The decision to remove Long has raised a few eyebrows. The forward had been causing all sorts of problems with his pace in behind.
Long off not Redmond?Wouldn't have taken Long off. Redmond proving to be undroppable in league games.They only watch him every week though, so what would they know?Long off ???
FFS.
http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthrea...3#.V96kiq2PG-c
TOWK and the Twittersphere must not have seen fit to comment on Long's misses against Arsenal.
Longys on 'livin with lucy'.
His gaff is bigger than my road, and his Mrs is a sort.
His difficult patch when confronted with very presentable chances continued unabated tonight Vs Palace in the cup, even after rounding the keeper he didn't get enough on the finish to prevent the chasing defender (Delaney I think) from clearing fairly comfortably off the line. Then later on he was too busy kicking the post in frustration to congratulate the young teammate who got a tap in after he failed to convert another 8 out of 10 opening. He did however earn the penalty which saw Austin score his fourth goal in a week. Swings and roundabouts indeed.
I love how there is an inquest every time Long misses any kind of chance - most of which he makes himself with his own endeavour anyway.
Doesn't happen with any other striker we have. Walters misses sitters every other week also *crickets*
Said it before. He needs to sacrifice the workrate a little and be a bit more selfish.
He would've reached double figures in the PL a lot earlier if he demanded to take penalties like Austin.
You're so one eyed it's ridiculous. You're as over-the-top in your protectiveness of Long as you are in your hurry to point out the flaws in Walters or whoever else doesn't fit your world view.
I agree with some of that. I don't agree with all of it.
There does seem to be a postmortem every time Long misses a chance.
There is no such thing whenever Walters does.
To the point where I have had to point it out personally several times, because noone else would.
I think Walters is similar to Kilbane in a way.
Fine player for us on his day and cult hero, but plays every game regardless of form or merit - and people seem reluctant to criticise him.
Now Kilbane was filling a hole at LB towards the end but Walters seems to be shoehorned into the team LW, RW, up front or off another striker whether it makes tactical sense or not.
And he is probably - in a way - the most important cog in a system that relies on chasing endless long balls and dogfights with defenders - that I would rather get away from.
Where is the inquest ?
Or the postmortem ?
And his two misses last night were nothing to do with his work rate either, have you seen them ? If you haven't I would challenge you to watch them & then to put up a case for his work rate being the cause of either miss.
It's not a compare & contrast with John Walters at all, for me anyway. Its more, these chances, this type of chance is the very type Ireland might create one (two on a sunny day) of in the tight games which will decide our group campaign, and at the moment he is missing them. He will come through it, he has before but right now he needs one to go in. And if you see him kicking the goal post after his second miss last night, no one is more aware of this than himself.
So to bring that up, as comment on here, as observation, is an inquest ? A postmortem ?
Joke.
To be fair, I think most of Long's misses go uncommented. When he's on a bad run, as he is now, they're pretty common so there's not much to say. When he's been on a good run then starts missing them, then it's usually commented on.
Even the best players miss chance.
He is a lot better than Ronaldo at putting away chances that is for sure!!
Imagine Long missed these? And remember that is only part 1!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtBLTIXbHT8
Long comes on for Austin on 73 minutes with West Ham chasing a 2 goal deficit, quite gamely in the last few minutes. West Ham were leaving gaps at the back that a bit of pace could exploit.
Hard to argue with Martin Tyler's assessment when he came on: "This situation ought to really suit Shane Long. Such a tireless and industrious centre forward, maybe lacking Austin's emphatic touch in front of goal."
I don't think that's damning him with faint praise, in fact I think it's just a qualified compliment.
As it happens Austin's finish for the first goal was quite tidy but I think Adrian should have saved it. It was well placed and curling away but he had time to get down and across, the shot wasn't hit that crisply. Tadic's dummy to send Adrian down for the second was classy. Adrian did make a good save at 1 down.
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