Next Senior Men's Team Manager - Runners and Riders

**Snapshot** · 28/03/2024, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

Yes O'Shea was really that bad. The inability to adjust the shape to fit how the game was going will stay with me a long time

I'm sure you'll recover in the fullness of time. Judging John O'Shea so conclusively on one poor game seems basically unfair, especially given the tolerance afforded Kenny by so many, including you. But he's unlikely to get the gig so cancel that expensive appointment with your therapist.

**Eirambler** · 28/03/2024, 10:43 AM

Really, all this process needed at this point was for a few journalists to bring the pro Roy Keane nutjobs out of hiding. If they have their man as they say they do they should just get on with it and announce him at the start of next week. Maintaining this radio silence any further is doing nothing other than giving oxygen to the lunatic fringe of the support base which, as is usually the case with an international team, is sizeable.

**Razors left peg** · 28/03/2024, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Snapshot

I'm sure you'll recover in the fullness of time. Judging John O'Shea so conclusively on one poor game seems basically unfair, especially given the tolerance afforded Kenny by so many, including you. But he's unlikely to get the gig so cancel that expensive appointment with your therapist.

2 games, he managed 2 games where he didnt adjust the shape. Some day if you learn your numbers you might be able to afford my expensive therapist too

**SkStu** · 28/03/2024, 11:43 AM

I know this is probably sad and all (and maybe i need an expensive therapist too) but I dreamt last night that the FAI announced a new managerial team of Gary Kelly, Jason McAteer and Phil Babb and were calling them the Three Amigos. They said they picked Kelly to be the manager because he was the most serious of the three. Paul McGrath was also in it - he was at the media table - and he kept calling him Gary Jelly.

Might be worth a cheeky fiver?

**backstothewall** · 28/03/2024, 12:09 PM

If John O'Shea wants to have a go at management I say good luck to him. He's got great experience as a player and has had a few coaching roles now. If he wants to have a go at it I would say he's ready for that.

Being a local I would suggest Waterford United would be perfect for him if a vacancy comes along, although they've started the season well so he might have to wait a while for that.

If he would be interested in a team across the water Bradford have lost 4 on the spin, or Inverness Caledonian Thistle are struggling. One of those might well be in the market for a new boss soon. They're both jobs a young manager as well known as John could impress in and move on to bigger and better things in a year or so.

He isn't close to being ready for the most senior coaching role in Irish football.

**Eirambler** · 28/03/2024, 2:18 PM

True, there is a line of thinking where you could argue that it is arrogant of O'Shea to be even putting his name up here. He was told clearly at the start that he was interim manager only, yet he seems to have taken it as an opportunity to try to audition for the full time job - and in the process shown exactly why he should be nowhere near the position.

**tetsujin1979** · 28/03/2024, 3:01 PM

I don't think he should be punished for showing some ambition

**backstothewall** · 28/03/2024, 3:18 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

I don't think he should be punished for showing some ambition

But he isn't being punished. He's just not being trusted with the most senior football coaching role in the country. With what's a pretty thin CV he could have no legitimate cause to believe he would be in contention for the job.

**seanfhear** · 28/03/2024, 3:49 PM

Originally Posted by Eirambler

True, there is a line of thinking where you could argue that it is arrogant of O'Shea to be even putting his name up here. He was told clearly at the start that he was interim manager only, yet he seems to have taken it as an opportunity to try to audition for the full time job - and in the process shown exactly why he should be nowhere near the position.

Might be just putting himself in the shop-window ~ ~ If he wants to become a manger, he might as well.

**JR89** · 28/03/2024, 4:54 PM

Originally Posted by seanfhear

Might be just putting himself in the shop-window ~ ~ If he wants to become a manger, he might as well.

Which he does. Tony Mowbray said that was O'Shea's reasoning for not wanting to stay on at Birmingham as a coach. Wonder though with Mowbray now out ill he might have gotten a shot as interim manager at Birmingham had he stayed.

**Kingdom** · 28/03/2024, 5:49 PM

Originally Posted by SkStu

I know this is probably sad and all (and maybe i need an expensive therapist too) but I dreamt last night that the FAI announced a new managerial team of Gary Kelly, Jason McAteer and Phil Babb and were calling them the Three Amigos. They said they picked Kelly to be the manager because he was the most serious of the three. Paul McGrath was also in it - he was at the media table - and he kept calling him Gary Jelly.

Might be worth a cheeky fiver?

We all needed to hear this.

**JR89** · 29/03/2024, 12:30 PM

From Dan McDonnells news letter this morning:

"There have been plenty of jokes about the significance of the Georgia-Greece playoff on Tuesday with Willy Sagnol and Gus Poyet on either side but there are sources claiming that senior FAI figures were following developments in the shootout in Tbilisi very closely in the minutes before kick-off in the Switzerland game. And the story goes that they didn’t necessarily get the result that they wanted."

**Crosby87** · 29/03/2024, 1:09 PM

That's the guy they were trying to get? Willy Sagnol?

I know this is tiresome to you all but it does say they have spoken to Roy 3 times.
Maybe they are trying to convince themselves to do it or not do it.

**Eirambler** · 29/03/2024, 1:12 PM

The least surprising news of the weekend.

https://www.the42.ie/roy-keane-irela...40564-Mar2024/

At least now all the pro-Keane crowd can crawl back under the rock they came out of a couple of days ago.

**seanfhear** · 29/03/2024, 1:13 PM

Just think that ~ ~ Fine Gael managed to get a new leader in a few days ( and that looks like a shockingly bad job at the moment )

So obviously ~ ~ Fine Gael must pick the next Irish soccer manager ! ! ! ( ye know it makes sense ! )

**John83** · 30/03/2024, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by Crosby87

I know this is tiresome to you all but it does say they have spoken to Roy 3 times.
Maybe they are trying to convince themselves to do it or not do it.

Likely, there are different factions with competing ideas of who to hire.

**pineapple stu** · 30/03/2024, 3:13 PM

Greek media reporting Poyet has turned the job down, after being offered it this week.

Which would of course be at odds with the idea that the deal was sealed last month and the FAI are just waiting on March contractual arrangements to be over before announcing.

**Jolly Red Giant** · 30/03/2024, 3:40 PM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Greek media reporting Poyet has turned the job down, after being offered it this week.

Which would of course be at odds with the idea that the deal was sealed last month and the FAI are just waiting on March contractual arrangements to be over before announcing.

The entire process is now officially a shambles - advertise the job, see who applies and take it from there - you don't have to appoint someone from the list of applicants, but at least you will see the quality of coach who is interested.

My concern would be that in a panic they would bounce back to the misogynist or the racist.

**SkStu** · 30/03/2024, 3:59 PM

hard to know what to say at this point...the whole thing has gone about as poorly as it could go. Icing on the cake would be Allardyce/Lennon in the end.