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    The 2nd place qualifying table

    Seen as only one team that finishes second in their group will NOT make the playoffs, has anybody got an up to date table on where the teams currently placed second now stand?

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    We'll probably be bottom of that table after wednesday's games
    Croatia are playing Andorra, so that'll put them on 7 points
    Iceland are playing Scotland, in Scotland, a win for either team puts them on 7 points, only a draw in that game would keep us out of the bottom spot in that table

    On the other hand, should Georgia beat Montenegro in Georgia on wednesday, we'll be on 10 points in that table, since Montenegro will be bottom, and we've only taken one point off them.
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    That table is out of date. We have 8 points on it it does not take into account last nights games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    We'll probably be bottom of that table after wednesday's games
    Croatia are playing Andorra, so that'll put them on 7 points
    Iceland are playing Scotland, in Scotland, a win for either team puts them on 7 points, only a draw in that game would keep us out of the bottom spot in that table

    On the other hand, should Georgia beat Montenegro in Georgia on wednesday, we'll be on 10 points in that table, since Montenegro will be bottom, and we've only taken one point off them.
    Sorry, I've got that wrong. Since Andorra are bottom of Croatia's group, when they win on Wednesday, that result will be disregarded in the second placed teams table, they'll still be on four points

    Quote Originally Posted by NeilMcD View Post
    That table is out of date. We have 8 points on it it does not take into account last nights games.
    Seems ok to me, we're on 11 points according to the official FIFA standings - http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/prelimi...ngs/index.html Georgia are bottom of the table and we've beaten them twice, so those wins are disregarded. 11 - (2 x 3) = 11 - 6 = 5
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    Can't look at it seriously untill after Wednesday.

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    Yeah but it has us on 7 points not 5 so its not up to date then.
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    The important thing is for Georgia not to finish bottom.... If Montenegro finish there, all the better for us.

    And this entire forum could do with some perspective.... 7 points clear of Bulgaria and favourites to make the playoffs. We are 4.8 on betfair to win the group and Bulgaria are 16. We're 1.15 for top two and they are 3.1. Lets keep some perspective.
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    That betfir market is a bit misleading. There's only a total of €257 backing ireland to finish in top 2, and only €15 on Bulgaria
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    Imo, if Georgia don't finish 6th and we can maintain a healthy enough 2nd spot(i.e. 8-9 points from the next 5 games which we will do) we should have no problem making the play offs. If the Georgians do finish last, we will be in or around that 9th 2nd placed team. I'm definitely looking for as many draws as possible in group 9 which is very tight and at the moment would be favourites to be the group with the worst 2nd place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenokelly View Post
    Imo, if Georgia don't finish 6th and we can maintain a healthy enough 2nd spot(i.e. 8-9 points from the next 5 games which we will do)
    8-9 points, 3pts at home to Montenegro(way were playing, thats not even a certain) the other 5-6 points are going to be hard come by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cobra View Post
    8-9 points, 3pts at home to Montenegro(way were playing, thats not even a certain) the other 5-6 points are going to be hard come by.
    I expect we'll get something in Cyprus, maybe a draw at home to Italy and we'll beat Montenegro. So that's at least five points we should have.
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    When are the playoffs & where? are they on a two leg basis?

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    I dare say it but our group is in pole position to have the 9th place 2nd placed team with Georgia increasingly looking like they will bottome the group

    Looks like it's between us, the English group, and Scottish group.

    Croatia have 4 points after 3 games, while Scotland have 7 after 5, and we have 6 points after 4.

    My money would be on Scotland from them 2 to do us a favour considering they have Holland at home and Norway away.
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    it is imperative that we beat Cyprus away and get a result in Bulgaria. Presuming we beat Montenegro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    it is imperative that we beat Cyprus away and get a result in Bulgaria. Presuming we beat Montenegro.
    Agreed. I think this Ireland squad will win in Nicosia, I just do. We can scramble a win at home to Montenegro, which just leaves the return matches with the big boys.

    The flip side is that if we get any kind of result in Sofia, then its important that we kick on and win in Cyprus which I think we will.

    I think if we're gonna come second we'll be grand for the playoff.
    2 pts vs Bulgaira
    2pts vs Italy
    4 pts vs Montenegro
    6 pts vs Cyprus.

    14pts? That will be enough.
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    Pretty difficult to estimate, there's a lot of football left to be played. And nearly all the groups are very tight.
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    For me it's between our group, Group 1 and Group 9 for worst runner up. 12 points bar the bottom team is probably going to be close to the magic total to get into the playoffs so we'll probably need 2 wins from our last 4 games. 1 win and 3 draws may not be enough.
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