QuoteI don't really get the impression that much has changed at Bray at all, for all the statements and so forth.
Supposedly the players met with the PFAI this morning too... All is quiet though which would worry me if I was a Bray fan... Surely if there was good news they'd be getting that out ASAPOriginally Posted by greywanderer
I don't really get the impression that much has changed at Bray at all, for all the statements and so forth.
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Indo article: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-35964392.html
Bray players still want out. There are still no new assurances. Wouldn't be surprised if Denis O Connor reappeared there as well.
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So the FAI couldn't attend a meeting due to a bereavement, meeting has been rescheduled for today at some point. Basically, nothings changed but maybeeeee we'll hear something today
Interesting that the FAI have the option to cancel contracts, but surely that would only be an option if wages are unpaid?
As for demanding that wage money is bonded, I don't think they players will get that. It's not something asked of other clubs, would be hard to force Bray to do so.
Limerick have been forced to bond money before.
Another source suggested to me this afternoon that he didn't really leave at all.
Yes they were a sum of over €200,000.
We are the Galway Boys Stand up and make some noise"
Forced by who? The FAI?
All you zombies tweet tweet tweet.
Yes - thought it was 250k myself
Yeah - it's realistically one of the few things the FAI can actually do.
They can say "Your budget is nonsense; go back and resubmit" and they can keep an eye on budget v actual in prior years - but ultimately the players are already signed. How do you get around that?
Can you really slap a transfer embargo or deny a licence just because you don't believe the budget? Not really.
Of course, a points deduction is worthless now because the ****'s already hit the fan, and yet the FAI are stuck with trying to keep Bray in the league because they can't afford to lose any more clubs.
So all they can do is ask for a deposit, and if the **** does hit the fan, at least there's a buffer there to release to the club and allow it limp on to the end of the season and start afresh with an amateur team or something. Even guarantee the players an extra month's salary or something. I guess the FAI thought that because all was good with Bray last year, that they'd be ok this year.
Course, in the end of the day, the FAI have made the environment that has allowed Bray to fail - no investment, no interest, and lumping extra costs on to all clubs. But while they keep pandering to crap like Conroy and Gabay, nothing'll change...
Ya forced by the FAI and it was €250k.
Latest on this: http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/socc...erers-10871382
"Stephen McGuinness met with FAI officials to discuss the latest developments in the ongoing saga.
He fronted the meeting on the players’ behalf after the Licensing department requested that no players sit in on the talks."
That's a bit weird isn't it? 4 players were there but not allowed into meeting.
"A number of players were paid yesterday with others due payment today. But that is the last of the money stumped up by former backer Gerry Mulvey.
There is now a claim that fresh funds from a new backer will be lodged into a bank account on August 3."
If they have the funds, why not lodge them now before the window shuts?
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It's getting to being like an episode of the Crystal Maze. With everyone shouting "Get out!" at the TV.
Hello, hello? What's going on? What's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here!
- E Tattsyrup.
I'm close to thinking that all clubs should pay a bond at the start of the year as part of licensing.
I see TSV 1860 Munich were relegated from the second flight in Germany last season - but then had to pay a €5m licence fee for the new season. I can't tell if that amount was refundable or not - they changed owners recently, and it could be that the previous owners got their bond back, and the new owners were now required to stump up.
Anyways, the DFB threw them down a further division for not paying.
I don't know if anyone has any more info on that, but it looks like a reasonable comparison with Bray. Say they asked Bray for a bond and Bray said sorry, haven't got it. What do you do? We can't **** any teams down more divisions because we haven't got any, and because the FAI have spent decades refusing to put any sort of pyramid system in place - in fact, they've been increasing the gap between league and everyone else, particularly with the absurdly short-sighted decision to put senior football on an entire different calendar to the rest of the country. In any event, other clubs "won't have it" too I'd say. A bond of what - €100k? - is a lot for LoI clubs. because there's no prize money or TV money and more and more teams to field. And you can't dock everyone points.
(I do agree a bond is an idea that has merit, for all that)
Basically, Fran Gavin et al have created the atmosphere for clubs to screw up and face practically no punishment bar extinction.
But hey, let's talk about Dundalk and Cork instead.
Even without teams being broke/corrupt or whatever, you can still only drop one division no matter how terrible you are on the pitch. Then on top of that you make it that when a club does get in trouble behind the scenes, they can just pretend it never happened and change whatever is at the end of the club name... FC to United etc
How do you change it though? I can't imagine anyone makes money out of the clubs (though I could be wrong) so you can't threaten to take that away really
Doings a transpiring: https://twitter.com/niallkelly/statu...21422463938560
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Lads, wait until you see the statement Gerry Mulvey has just sent out from Bray...
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Sweet merciful Jebus: http://braywanderersfc.ie/bray-wanderers-fc-statement/
July
27
Bray Wanderers FC Statement
Bray Wanderers FC can now officially confirm the club is financially stable for the foreseeable future and have a vision for the future unrivaled by any other Football Club in Ireland.
Wicklow County has unfortunately now attained the accolade of being the North Korea of Ireland for business.
But like all suppressed people, they eventually revolt, a revolution of Football is going to start and Bray Wanderers will be the leaders not just for Wicklow but for Ireland in this revolt.
Ireland produced great world beating players, from Roy Keane, John Giles, Liam Brady, Robbie Keane to Ray Houghton and many many more.
The problem and question is why cannot Ireland produce such great talent anymore.
We at Bray Wanderers are going to answer the questions and solve this problem.
We are going to give Wicklow and Ireland something to be proud of where there will be an academy to rival the best in the world. Our vision and ,rest assured ,we will execute the delivery of our vision is a world class football academy to rival the best in the world.
To achieve this, yes, we are going to and are in preliminary negotiations to buy a new Ground, and will be seeking from Wicklow County Council the rezoning of the land in The Carlisle grounds with the development proceeds used to fund the construction of what will be the best Academy and sporting Grounds in the country.
To keep the club on a sound financial Footing and independently fund this academy and club forevermore, we do have a plan on how to do that.
This will be at no cost to the Exchequer or County Council. But when you operate in North Korea, these options are difficult to achieve, but we will achieve it.
Eventually when we have succeeded in our vision creating the best centre of Excellence in Ireland, based on Academies such as Barcelona Manchester United and other in that caliber, creating the best production line of players in Ireland, we will hand the facility and sustainable business over to a trust who will protect the club and the development of Football in Wicklow & Ireland long after our collective lifetimes.
There will be may naysayers to this and to them, we say,
Ideally we’d bring in Conor McGregor for a quote but our response is,
“One great enemy we must all endeavor to fear not conquering is fear. Fear can cripple purpose and purposeful life. Fear asks question we must fear. Fear makes vision a nightmare. One must always cross the barrier of fear to get to the great city of true purposefulness. A great number of us who are unable to live to accomplish the true reason for our existence on earth are unable to cross the barrier of fear in the first place.”
Those afraid and living Fear, rest assured fear has no place in Bray Wanderers.
Gerry Mulvey
Chairman
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