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    Would not believe a word from O'Connor given his history at the Tribunal where he was a associated with Lowry.

    I was told he recently made an appearance or two in Stubb's Gazette. The sooner Bray get him out the door the better.
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    What brought Denis O'Connor to Bray in the first place? Out of the blue he decided he'd buy an Irish football club and he chose Bray Wanderers? Never forget what this man is https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soc...owry-1.2295040. From the start he and his brother were divisive, driving away many people who had been loyal to the club for many years. They, along with a couple of willing local lickspittles took to Facebook to ridicule and belittle people (supporters) culminating in Murt O'Connor's racist and homophobic posts which at least put a stop to their use of Facebook. The supporters club has been wound up after the O'Connors set up a Bray Wanderers members club, controlled by themselves. And now he whinges about the lack of support? He drove people away, he had to know before he got involved with the club that support was small. I'm involved with a local schoolboy club and we haven't heard one word from Bray since the O'Connors came in, I'm sure we're not the only ones. Coincidentally, shortly after settling with Mick Cooke's unfair dismissal claim https://www.pressreader.com/ireland/...81801398957595 we sell Dylan Connolly to Dundalk. Walking around Bray on matchdays you'd have no idea there was a game on, not a poster or anything around the town. I agree with Mr. A, Denis O'Connor is the problem, he needs to get the hell out of Bray.
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    Where's the money coming from that has been invested in a squad sitting 3rd placed in the league?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seagull View Post
    Denis O'Connor is the problem
    I wish it was as simple as that, but it's not.
    1. True, the O'Connors could have used their new brooms a little more cleverly when they took over, and yes, they didn't handle the long-serving volunteers very well. But that sort of bad start doesn't make them the enemy.
    2. The town of Bray seems to have given up on Bray Wanderers once they joined the LOI in 1985 - with the exception of FAI Cup Semi-Finals and Finals, of course. Prior to that, there are plenty of reports of large attendances at matches.
    3. Efforts to build support for the club have been intermittent, it is true, but have taken place every couple of years since 1985, with only very limited success. These involved approaches to local junior clubs, the Wicklow League, the Chamber of Commerce, the Town Council, and almost everyone who could possibly be of assistance. Hardly a school in the vicinity - well outside Bray town itself - didn't get visits from players, and the Cup was paraded around for good measure during the two years Wanderers had it.
    4. Bray have no history of paying huge or even modestly inflated wages to players. In fact, a lot of the time they were paying well below the League averages.
    5. Anyone with the time and determination could find practically annual rants by Pat Devlin amounting to much the same message as Denis O'C spelled out last night.
    Wish there was a moneybags, even for a couple of seasons. We could do with one.
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    PFAI have just tweeted that Bray have told all players their wages are only covered up to next week and they can all go to other clubs.
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    Looks like only two teams will be going down this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longfordian View Post
    PFAI have just tweeted that Bray have told all players their wages are only covered up to next week and they can all go to other clubs.
    Dundalk should have held out for a freebie.

    In all seriousness though, I can't understand the point in contracts if you can just tell players we can't pay you anymore, move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longfordian View Post
    PFAI have just tweeted that Bray have told all players their wages are only covered up to next week and they can all go to other clubs.
    Another year and another club granted a fake license on phantom sources of money.

    Bray players performance was way off against Dundalk, the squad must have known this was coming. Some will get contracts elsewhere but most won't get anything like they are on. Time for PFAI to take legal action on both Bray and the FAI for this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by legendz View Post
    Though they have small support, they have support. Their opinion on moving or not should not be dismissed because of those who stay away.
    Did you get the irony / sarcasm of the original post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by legendz View Post
    Where's the money coming from that has been invested in a squad sitting 3rd placed in the league?
    That's the question the players are currently asking - where will the money come form?

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    This was O'Connor's shady plan from the start. Why the hell did he arrive at Bray Wanderers? Mulvey has obviously stopped writing cheques. They drove away as many long time supporters as they could, they wound up the supporters club, they did absolutely nothing to promote the club and now here we are, no money to pay the team. So will it be we could move the club to a new ground but would have to be allowed develop the Carlisle to fund it or will it be let the club fold and then see what happens the Carlisle? I curse the day the O'Connor brothers ever set their eyes on our club. They said they saved it from bankruptcy when they took over but then signed players on well paid two year contracts which was completely unsustainable at a club like Bray. I hope the club can survive this but either way the O'Connors have to go.
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    Heads should roll in Dundalk.

    Remember the day.

    A LoI club paid a five figure fee for a player they could have got for free a week later.

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    Dundalk agreed to pay the figure before the transfer window officially opened on 01/07, the transaction probably hasn't even gone through yet !

    Some mess now in Bray though.
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    Reckon contract must have been signed or bray wouldnt have pulled the plug. Either way they could keep paying Connolly so he couldn't walk.

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    Some joke there...was wondering alright where the money was coming from, as attendances there have never been great and they've never had much money before.

    Wonder what their submission to licensing was, how the spending was budgeted for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jofspring View Post
    Dundalk should have held out for a freebie.

    In all seriousness though, I can't understand the point in contracts if you can just tell players we can't pay you anymore, move on.
    A player only becomes "free" if his contracted salary is repeatedly not paid.

    While other players may not get paid, if Connolly was not transferred, you can be certain that Bray would have ensured that he was paid. Think Aaron Greene at Bohs several years ago, when he was perhaps the only Bohs player receiving what was owed to him, as the club frantically tried to sell him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lim till i die View Post
    Heads should roll in Dundalk.

    Remember the day.

    A LoI club paid a five figure fee for a player they could have got for free a week later.
    Dundalk would certainly have had competition from Cork, Shamrock Rovers and some cross channel clubs for Connolly's signature if he was on a freebie. No guarantee they would have got him for free next week, they should not look at that as 30-40k wasted if they thought he was worth the money last week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seagull View Post
    This was O'Connor's shady plan from the start. Why the hell did he arrive at Bray Wanderers? Mulvey has obviously stopped writing cheques. They drove away as many long time supporters as they could, they wound up the supporters club, they did absolutely nothing to promote the club and now here we are, no money to pay the team. So will it be we could move the club to a new ground but would have to be allowed develop the Carlisle to fund it or will it be let the club fold and then see what happens the Carlisle? I curse the day the O'Connor brothers ever set their eyes on our club. They said they saved it from bankruptcy when they took over but then signed players on well paid two year contracts which was completely unsustainable at a club like Bray. I hope the club can survive this but either way the O'Connors have to go.
    Have the debts generated over the past two years been loaded onto the club or out of Mulvey's/O'Connor's/Someone elses pockets?

    Dogs on the street apart from all in Abbotstown knew O'Connor was a total snake, this was a opportunistic property land grab that was never going to materialise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Reckon contract must have been signed or bray wouldnt have pulled the plug. Either way they could keep paying Connolly so he couldn't walk.
    They were always going to keeping paying Connolly. He is/was their only marketable asset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oriel View Post
    Dundalk agreed to pay the figure before the transfer window officially opened on 01/07, the transaction probably hasn't even gone through yet !

    Some mess now in Bray though.
    In fairness we have been in a mess for the last (10) years. Anyone remotely involved with the club over that period could see where this was going.
    What has happened over the last few years has shown we were always going to get to this stage. The new owners were certainly not in it for the love of the club and I reckon it has only been the last couple of months that the council basically said a firm no to what was perceived as their "plan".

    I reckon within the town itself there are enough football people to get involved with the club and ultimately the town to get behind the club but in fairness it needs a complete start from scratch and get rid of the reasons for the town not supporting the club.

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