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    Followed it a bit on the live betting on bet365, Bray were odds on up until Elgin scored also thought Bray missed a pen around the 80th minute turned out the ref awarded it then changed his mind.

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    Sligo 1-0 down inside ten minutes

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    1-1 in Sligo

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    Make that 1-2

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    Thought both had a shout of getting through, although Sligo got a tougher draw. Bray's result was disappointing, thought they had a good chance of advancing.

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    That's embarrassing for League of Ireland football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    That's embarrassing for League of Ireland football.
    Falkirk have an average home crowd of 4000, an 8000 all seater stadium and a team that cost over 4 million to put together. Nothing embarrassing to losing to them.
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    I would safely imagine thats it not that long ago that Falkirk were in the top flight?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    2-0 Elgin.

    So much for going easy on them!

    Average crowd in the second flight in Scotland last season was 4400 btw. Every club was bigger than Bray. I think people have been getting carried away here.
    Hibs were in the Scottish Championship last season, banking home crowds of up to 15,000 for each game and taking quite a few away, so you can't treat that league average as in any way indicative of the norm. Clubs like Dumbarton get crowds around Bray's level usually. You'll see a substantially lower league wide average this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    I would safely imagine thats it not that long ago that Falkirk were in the top flight?
    They were last in the SPL in 2010.

    They were unlucky over the last few seasons to have had Rangers and Hibs at their level, as they'd have probably won the Championship last year if Hibs weren't there. They've had a terrible start to the current season however.

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    Both fair enough alright. But then other factors - TV deals; potential Cup matches against Old Firm - would be an extra boost worst considering.

    Still think the idea that the LoI clubs should be looking to win the tournament outright is a bit much. Even if two first-round defeats is a bit surprising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    That's embarrassing for League of Ireland football.
    The Bray result was awful. God knows what happened there.

    Sligo were always going to face a difficult challenge, but home advantage should have helped them.

    I think we've not been helped by the fact that of the 2 teams entered into the Irn Bru this year on the basis of performances last year, one has since been racked by turmoil whilst the other is in a relegation struggle. I think Rovers and Derry would have been better reps in hindsight, though that would've had the potential to cause Euro issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Both fair enough alright. But then other factors - TV deals; potential Cup matches against Old Firm - would be an extra boost worst considering.

    Still think the idea that the LoI clubs should be looking to win the tournament outright is a bit much. Even if two first-round defeats is a bit surprising.
    There's definitely more money in the Scottish Championship than in the LOI, but that doesn't necessarily make it of a higher standard. There's probably no country in Europe equal to or bigger than Ireland who's league doesn't offer more money than the LOI - even in poorer countries.

    Only a number of years of participation in the Irn Bru Cup would give an accurate reflection of the comparative standards. Let's not forget that Linfield won the first ever Setanta Cup at a time when they weren't even IL champions, so it took the following years to see a truer reflection of where the LOI and IL were via that competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post

    Sligo were always going to face a difficult challenge, but home advantage should have helped them.

    It was a pretty even game. Of course I'm biased but a draw probably would have been a fairer result. We gifted them the first goal when we were playing well - Sharkey came across for a ball, slipped and they scored. We didn't start Schlingerman or Russell either. Talking to their fans it was their first team out too. Dundalk would wipe the floor with them.
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    Would win any tournament for 'most complete waste of time' tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straightstory View Post
    Would win any tournament for 'most complete waste of time' tournament.
    Travel aside, t's no less a waste of time than the Setanta Cup was IMO. It's certainly more competitive anyway. And like the Setanta, it has some value in scoping out whether there is potential in cross-jurisdiction competitions. A European Super League is probably an inevitability in football at some point, so it would be helpful for the smaller leagues in this corner of the continent to have some sense of how would be the best way to respond to that if it happened.

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    I agree EYG but given the likelihood that LOI teams in general won't make the group stages of Europe you'd have to wonder would we not be better off letting Cork and Dundalk play in it next year.
    It would be a better reflection of the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    I agree EYG but given the likelihood that LOI teams in general won't make the group stages of Europe you'd have to wonder would we not be better off letting Cork and Dundalk play in it next year.
    It would be a better reflection of the league.
    Are you mad??

    Imagine the uproar if the FAI asked Dundalk or Cork to play in a lowly Scottish cup - thereby assuming that neither have a chance to get into European group stages.

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    If one of the Irish clubs won or went close to winning this it might provide a bit of a boost to the perception of the game here but clubs exiting early will make very little impact, if any. I doubt it's a competition that has made much of an impression on the public imagination.

    It's not a bad idea though and I'd love to see Harps in it some year just for the laugh and chance to get a spin to Scotland for a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    I'd love to see Harps in it some year just for the laugh and chance to get a spin to Scotland for a game.
    Don't see what possible further justification is needed really.

    Would be good to see it expanded - presuming the Scottish teams are ok obviously. Tis their tournament after all

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