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    50k a team is way too high; trust me.

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    It's sad and scary but I'm confident we'll be there for 2017.

    Quote Originally Posted by total hoofball View Post
    There were ground improvements, they employed Shane Keegan full-time but no other major spending last season. I'd say the 200k has been accumulated over the years.
    We built the new toilets and SK was partially paid by commission for ad-sales, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    50k a team is way too high; trust me.
    It might not be a million miles away. I was told it costs around €40k per year to run each of Harps underage teams. It's incredibly tough for LOI teams to sustain this, but I do believe in the long run it will pay for itself.
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    I agree with Wonder88, I dont see why it it is not sufficient to link with an existing youth club as a feeder and up t a reserve/U21 league giving both the youth clubs players a pathway to senior football and the senior club access to an 'academy' or youth set-up. It would spread the cost burden. If youth teams cost that much to run how can the like of St Kevins run " Club has 48 Teams and over 800 Players and 105 Managers/Coaches." and please dont go on a travel cost tangent as it is a factor of cost not total cost in running a youth set-up. I agree Nigel it will pay-off in the long run but only when other aaspects of the league kick on in particular the ability to contract players properly and fully to obtain more than training compensation or the FAI got to bat to eek out every cent of compensation due to LoI clubs from the vultures picking the carcasses. Wexford Youth will remain if not entirely the same. At least on some level the creditor isnt ging to seem like rte local area business are being cut off with the financial burden if Youth reform after liquidation. Mick might have to expunge all the dates/stars he puts on his jerseys if a new club has to be formed ;p That the FAI took ownership of the ground and the ongoing issues that Wallace has had with his own companies something like this was on the cards quite a while.

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    I presume a lot of St Kevin's members are paying subs? Maybe not the top teams at each age, but others surely?

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    If kevins are like cabinteely it's around 200 per player per year.

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    Charging (expensive) membership is one way of offsetting the costs of these underage teams. And if Horgan for example becomes an instant star across the water it could help LoI clubs sell the dream to the kids parents so that they will be prepared to pay to play. A problem is that most LoI clubs do not own training facilities, so having to pay to rent them, makes it difficult to compete with the elite schoolboys/youth clubs. Ironically Wexford are better off than most in this regard, along Shamrock R. and Limerick I think, any other?
    What is the story with UCD, regarding junior teams, strange having a University fielding school age teams.
    My own view is that every club should have a womens team, in order to make them part of their community. Being an integral part of their local area is the best way to guarantee survival for clubs.
    Ideally the player development/pathway is the way to go, but have LoI clubs the resources to make it work?

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    This was actually on the front page today, but only because of the Wallace connection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wonder88 View Post
    Ideally the player development/pathway is the way to go, but have LoI clubs the resources to make it work?
    This is where you would expect the FAI to be fully involved in terms of resourcing the game. I didnt realise that subs were as high these days with schoolboy clubs even the elite ones. The player development pathway allows for there to be a linking of existing youths clubs feeding in to LoI and spreading the financial burden a bit. Taking just Athlone for the moment - at the figures mentioned where could they finance U15's to U21's, ladies teams, and senior...at least Cabinteely have youth structures in place before LoI. Feeder clubs (or leagues even) would have to be a reasonable option initially at least to meet obligations for 15s to 17s!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonder88 View Post
    What is the story with UCD, regarding junior teams, strange having a University fielding school age teams.
    Not really. It's common enough now for us to be signing players in fifth year, with the idea that they'll be going to UCD in due course. And it helps as (a) schoolkids are older these days i think; the starting age has generally gone from 4 to 5 in recent times and (b) we can get players earlier, before other clubs get them.

    Look at Dylan Watts for example; he'd just finished fifth year when playing for us in Europe. Someone else - possibly Bray, as I think he played with Joey's - would have nabbed him if we'd waited another two years.

    I would expect Mount Merrion FC to be involved with the u15s though. But the fact that we tend to have a young team is all the more reason to have a good underage structure, not a reason to avoid it.

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    I was wrong about the subs in cabo it's 300 for 1 kid 495 for two....and they have 1000 + members

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    Wexford Youths FC will be granted a licence and will compete in the 2017 SSE Airtricity 1st Division

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldyouth View Post
    Wexford Youths FC will be granted a licence and will compete in the 2017 SSE Airtricity 1st Division
    Reporting a fact ?

    Making a prediction ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    Reporting a fact ?

    Making a prediction ?

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    Which ever one you want. I'm happier today than I was yesterday. Read in to that what you wish. Now to take my '2017 collectors item' season ticket down from e-Bay

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    Hearing that Wexford Youths have been folded, and the application for a licence was under Wexford FC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by **FrOsTy** View Post
    Hearing that Wexford Youths have been folded, and the application for a licence was under Wexford FC?
    Yep chatting a youths fan there, new colours, new crest and new name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Yep chatting a youths fan there, new colours, new crest and new name.
    Hopefully the pink is gone, along with the curly haired one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    Hopefully the pink is gone, along with the curly haired one.
    I'm not 100% up to date on the story with Wex Youths and MW.Did MW mortgage Ferrycarraig Park at one time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longfordian View Post
    The FAI owns the ground doesn't it? Worst case scenario they come back as Wexford FC and still play out of Ferrycarrig. Who do they owe €200k to anyway?
    I've sent them an invoice for €5k for this strategic plan
    Upwards to the vanguard where the pressure is too high.

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    To clarify a few things, as best I can

    On the plus side
    We'll be playing in the LOI 1st Division
    We'll be playing in pink & black
    We'll be playing in Ferrycarrig Park

    On the down side
    The friggin' bull is still on the crest
    The friggin' stars are still on the crest

    If the name changes, it might be a good thing. Doesn't seem to have done Cork, Limerick, Galway or Waterford teams any harm

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