They're already bringing that up.Originally Posted by backstothewall
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I've been looking for a quote but can't find much. A few articles mention the FAI have been granted permission but it doesn't say from who.
Did the FAI need to get permission from the government to use the 1916 logo on the shirt too?
Me too. It's borderline impossible now because most logical searches just throw up the developments over the past 24 hours. I did find this but it's more like a Waterford Whisperers News article rather than something in a newspaper. I guess the date of the article has a lot to do with that but they did mention UEFA regarding the clearance, whether that's based on fact or fiction I don't know.
Uefa had given Ireland the all-clear to wear the one-off badge but it seems some Swiss officials at the game raised the matter with Uefa in recent days as they felt it broke the regulations regarding ‘political messages’ in the game.
Classic Sunday World headline.
I did my own searching and found some articles about the FAI in negotiations with the Irish government, but not FIFA - it read like FIFA's approval was only needed for competitive games, but I don't know what the story is there.
A little bit about that here.
England were able to put it on armbands before in a friendly. I thought this was more a problem cos its not a friendly. the Ireland was a friendly though so therein lies the distinction.
All official A level friendlies fall under Fifa's jurisdiction.
There is no charge yet, I wouldn't sweat over it. The UK press furore and faux outrage over Fifa's position on the poppy is just magnifying the enormity of the FAI's alleged crime by a factor of a thousand. You'd think the FAI had burned an effigy of Infantino in the centre circle.
Even if found guilty, the FAI at worst would just have to pay a petty cash fine.
I was sure that the friendlies were under jurisdiction of the FAI and that qualifiers were under the jurisdiction of FIFA, making the issue of the Easter Rising commemoration nothing to do with FIFA.
Here is a debate I took part in yesterday on BBC World Service about the poppy jersey debate
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04d8k19
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FIFA statute 70
The Council shall compile an international match calendar that shall be binding
upon the confederations, member associations and leagues, after conferring
with the confederations.
Statute 71.
International matches and competitions
1. The Council shall be responsible for issuing regulations for organising international matches and competitions between representative teams and between leagues, club and/or scratch teams. No such match or competition shall take place without the prior permission of FIFA, the confederations and/ or the member associations in accordance with the Regulations Governing International Matches.
2.
The Council may issue further provisions for such matches and competitions.
3
The Council shall determine any criteria for authorising line-ups that are not covered by the Regulations Governing International Matches.
4.
Notwithstanding the authorisation competences as set forth in the Regulations Governing International Matches, FIFA may take the final decision on the authorisation of any international match or competition.
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"It's a tradition like going to your mother's for Sunday dinner." Sap. [Second Caller]
Ah there ya are. [Third Caller]
He redeemed himself. [First Caller]
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It's a sensible rule designed to keep a lid on a can of worms. The reaction to the poppy thing is moderate enough in comparison to what else is potentially out there.
If this is allowed it is inevitable that Armenia will want to put a Forget-Me-Not on their shirt for the April matches to mark the genocide there, at which point Turkey will freak. The Balkans are very tricky as well
Why would football want to put itself through that?
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Poppy day is not related to football either, I guess the FAI can take a small fine and do the same thing in 2116. it is a bigger issue for the English FA.
How long before the German team are turning out in Nazi armbands?
If the USA team all got Donald Trump hair cuts, would FIFA allow that!
I agree Poppy day isn't related to football and made the point in previous that as recently as 1999 the English and Scots playing out the exact same fixture in November didn't think so either.
I'd like to know is there a scale or schedule of punishments that FIFA could seek to put on us because what I initially thought might be a small fine might turn out to be something more substantial if they decide to make an example of us so as to deter others.
Whatever about German teams and Nazi armbands -How long before Russia decide to put, I dunno, a blank headstone motif on their shirts? -which they'll say is merely decorative and has nothing to do with commemorating the unmarked graves of anyones comrades who were killed while getting up to allsorts in Eastern Ukraine this last while?
It's a good rule. We broke it.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
Actually just as a measure of how absurd this is getting I earlier read a comment in the indo by someone giving out about FIFA sanctioning UNICEF awareness and charity fixtures and then daring not allow us stick 1916 stuff on our togs.
Yeah -way to stick it to those malnourished, homeless, bombed out kids. If we can't beat our chests to express our pride at events we actually had nothing to do with -well then screw them.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
The big irony is that the laws around player dress code were formulated by the 4 UK associations, acting as FIFA's lawmakers.
I tend to blame John Delaney for everything. Certainly for everything that's wrong with the FAI and most definitely for this fiasco. Then RTE go and dig up his predecessor Fran Rooney for his tuppenceworth and he says FIFA have to get with the times. How do we end up with this class of gombeen running the whole show? Surely in their roles they've done a bit of travel, met a few counterparts and maybe learned exactly why it's better to find a formula that unites rather than emphasises difference.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
What fiasco?
get a grip on reality.
my kids' Irish passports arrived today. Nothing like a surge towards fascism to motivate me to stop prevaricating.
i reckon England will beat them to it.
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