League of Ireland in Europe 2017

**Charlie Darwin** · 07/05/2017, 11:14 PM

Told he wasn't required by all accounts.

**brendy_éire** · 08/05/2017, 8:50 AM

The goldmine of Bert Kassies's site has been updated with the seedings for the Europa League draw.
Derry and Cork definitely unseeded, as expected. Shamrock Rovers are borderline.
https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert...eedel2017.html

**redobit** · 08/05/2017, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Is Sligo all that easier than Dundalk to get to from Derry? As somebody pointed out, Derry would have a decent support base in Belfast and Dublin where Dundalk would be more accessible. I do think it's good to keep it in the north(ish) west though.

I've never driven Derry to Dundalk but the Bogside/ Brandywell is on the Sligo side of the City. Could of minutes drive and youre out from the city on the road to Sligo.

**DannyInvincible** · 08/05/2017, 11:20 AM

Getting on to the Letterkenny or Buncrana Roads for Sligo from any point in the city isn't that much of a ball-ache, even from the Waterside. Similarly, getting on to the Strabane Road for Dundalk from any point in the city isn't that big a deal either. It would only take a few minutes at most from any point in the city really. It's not like you'd be talking about anywhere near even a half an hour or anything like that.

**sbgawa** · 08/05/2017, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by brendy_éire

The goldmine of Bert Kassies's site has been updated with the seedings for the Europa League draw.
Derry and Cork definitely unseeded, as expected. Shamrock Rovers are borderline.
https://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert...eedel2017.html

What has to happen for rovers to be seeded ?

**nigel-harps1954** · 08/05/2017, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by sbgawa

What has to happen for rovers to be seeded ?

Everyone else to spontaneously combust in the heatwave.

**sbgawa** · 08/05/2017, 1:00 PM

Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Everyone else to spontaneously combust in the heatwave.

Excellent. .the weather outside is heating up.

**El-Pietro** · 08/05/2017, 1:06 PM

Theres a near zero chance Rovers will be seeded. Its currently mathematically possible but it won't happen.

**pateen** · 08/05/2017, 1:44 PM

Like it was asked above, considering Cork came second last year why would Rovers be seeded.
Previous European runs?

**Real ale Madrid** · 08/05/2017, 1:59 PM

Dublin bias - they are ahead of Derry as well.

**El-Pietro** · 08/05/2017, 2:35 PM

Originally Posted by pateen

Like it was asked above, considering Cork came second last year why would Rovers be seeded.
Previous European runs?

League form has nothing to do with it. Rovers have been seeded for the past several seasons based on their European results. Including the year they reached the Group Stages. That season is no longer counted and so they will be unseeded - thuogh the rumour is that it will be included again from next year as UEFA change to a ten year period rather than the current 5 year period.

**Charlie Darwin** · 08/05/2017, 4:35 PM

Originally Posted by El-Pietro

League form has nothing to do with it. Rovers have been seeded for the past several seasons based on their European results. Including the year they reached the Group Stages. That season is no longer counted and so they will be unseeded - thuogh the rumour is that it will be included again from next year as UEFA change to a ten year period rather than the current 5 year period.

More Shamrock Rovers bias from UEFA.

**El-Pietro** · 08/05/2017, 5:06 PM

Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

More Shamrock Rovers bias from UEFA.

Our last year in Europe before this current run was 2008. We lost heavily in the first round and based on current coefficient calculations would receive 0.25 towards our coefficient for next season. If they were to include 10 years this season we would have had 0.75 - probably not enough for us to be seeded though. But last year would have been interesting, we would have had 1.75 or 2.75 depending on how they calculate CL points back then. So we might have been seeded last season. Of course, other teams would also have additional points so the limits will be increased.

Basically the 10 year switch will have unfortunate consequences for Cork City for the first couple of years, but will benefit us long term IF we can keep qualifying. Ridden Rock Solid(TM).

**sbgawa** · 08/05/2017, 7:11 PM

Seeding doesn't guarantee an easy match ROPS last year for us when we were seaded was a bad draw. Cork were unseaded and got linfield ! . Luck has a big part to play........I'd still rather be seeded though : )

**Nesta99** · 08/05/2017, 7:22 PM

Originally Posted by sbgawa;1919274[B

]Seeding doesn't guarantee an easy match ROPS last year for us when we were seaded was a bad draw[/B]. Cork were unseaded and got linfield ! . Luck has a big part to play........I'd still rather be seeded though : )

Lol it wasnt a bad draw, Fenlon had lost it by then and Rovers were in disarray. There are not too many easy matches in Europe but the tie handed to Rovers last season was a lot more winnable than the majority of other possiblities!

**Charlie Darwin** · 08/05/2017, 7:42 PM

Yeah, it wasn't a difficult draw at all. With all due respect to them, their striker was a guy Rovers turned away after one trial game.

**sbgawa** · 08/05/2017, 9:23 PM

They were poor but fenlon had reached the end of his rope and we were playing dreadfully. My point was they were unseeded and linfield were seeded.

**oriel** · 09/05/2017, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by sbgawa

Seeding doesn't guarantee an easy match ROPS last year for us when we were seaded was a bad draw. Cork were unseaded and got linfield ! . Luck has a big part to play........I'd still rather be seeded though : )

You can of course get lucky in the draw, Dundalk were fortunate last year to get FH of Iceland the 2nd round of the CL, although they were seeded it was the one you wanted. (mind you they would have said the same)

Also after the first leg and 1-1 home draw, there was a fair chance the return leg could be our last of that season in Europe, and more so after going 0-1 down over there.

**El-Pietro** · 09/05/2017, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by sbgawa

Seeding doesn't guarantee an easy match ROPS last year for us when we were seaded was a bad draw. Cork were unseaded and got linfield ! . Luck has a big part to play........I'd still rather be seeded though : )

You should have beaten ROPs easily. We got a relatively lucky draw in the first and second rounds last year but we could easily have drawn a monster team in the first round. We could draw some very tough teams this year as well. Being seeded is massively important. If you are seeded there are much fewer teams you are worried about facing. If you are unseeded you are hoping to get one of a small number of teams.

**oriel** · 09/05/2017, 12:56 PM

I'd say Cork's first round draw last year was more than relatively lucky, you didn't have to leave the Island and up against a side barely back in pre season training !

Still I think they gave you a fair old game in TC?