Fingal Project?

[legendz]

Shels would end up on long term life support if in a Groundshare with Bohs.

That'll definitely be the case.

Seeing as Shels have been northside for decades, they may as well go further north to Swords. If Cabinteely is in the south-eastern part of Dublin it should mean there will be a club in the 3 administrative counties and two either side of the Liffey in the city council catchment area + the students.

[BonnieShels]

That'll definitely be the case.

Seeing as Shels have been northside for decades, they may as well go further north to Swords. If Cabinteely is in the south-eastern part of Dublin it should mean there will be a club in the 3 administrative counties and two either side of the Liffey in the city council catchment area + the students.

The students are in Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown as well.

As it might come as a surprise, very few of us Dubs look to our council as a reference point for our cultural identity. While there might be a certain sense, a Fingal identity to some extent (hurling, cricket) there is in its hoop such a differentiation as to use them as reasons to divvy up our teams.

And as for Shels "might as well move to Swords" crap, give over the shiite talk would ya.

[Philosophizer]

very few of us Dubs look to our council as a reference point for our cultural identity.

Yep, this!! The Dublin council borders dont carry anything like the weight of our county/provincial borders.

Imho the most important element to look at when thinking about any new/relocating LOI clubs would be population and making sure you're not too close to an already existing club.

[legendz]

The students are in Dún Laoghaire-Rathdown as well.

As it might come as a surprise, very few of us Dubs look to our council as a reference point for our cultural identity. While there might be a certain sense, a Fingal identity to some extent (hurling, cricket) there is in its hoop such a differentiation as to use them as reasons to divvy up our teams.

And as for Shels "might as well move to Swords" crap, give over the shiite talk would ya.

Might as well move is in the same context as someone earlier suggesting moving back the other side of the Liffey. There's such a thing as rolling discussion. In terms of divvying up teams, that's not the point. If Shels are looking at moving, and they've looked towards Fingal before, it is shrewd to move where they will have the sole support of a council. It's not the only factor to consider. If they've no desire to move there naturally it will not happen! Enjoy watching your local LoI team in action and have a nice day!

[Philosophizer]

Fingal council were certainly in favour of having a LOI team back in the day when they were talking about a stadium in Swords, but whether that desire still exists is another matter entirely. I haven't heard anything about it in years...

[marinobohs]

Fingal council were certainly in favour of having a LOI team back in the day when they were talking about a stadium in Swords, but whether that desire still exists is another matter entirely. I haven't heard anything about it in years...

The inquest in Fingal CO CO over the Sporting Fingal debacle still sends shudders through the officials, so would not hold my breath waiting on Council to get involved in football any time soon.

The FAI and Dublin Co Co want Shels to move into Dalymunt. So don't expect any assistance in maintaining Tolka Park from those quarters.
Shels felt they had leverage by refusing to move to Tolka (Council, initially indicated it as both teams or none) and Shels refusal seriously risked the existence of Bohs (who needed the deal to pay off Zurich).

I suspect, as do most people, that Shels will eventually be forced into moving into Dalymount. The delay in doing so 9unless they have a viable option) will hurt whatever potential they have to develop a fan base as the revamped stadium will become linked solely with Bohs. they would be better to move now and try and put down some roots with a view to attract some of the 'new support' that will be attracted to the new shiny stadium when it eventually comes to fruition.

[Charlie Darwin]

Maybe a move to Irishtown stadium would be a sensible one for Shels?

Won't happen as long as the people who live there live there.

[BonnieShels]

Might as well move is in the same context as someone earlier suggesting moving back the other side of the Liffey. There's such a thing as rolling discussion. In terms of divvying up teams, that's not the point. If Shels are looking at moving, and they've looked towards Fingal before, it is shrewd to move where they will have the sole support of a council. It's not the only factor to consider. If they've no desire to move there naturally it will not happen! Enjoy watching your local LoI team in action and have a nice day!

Moving to Irishtown/Ringsend has merit and is worth discussing from the POV that we're from there.

The inevitability of moving to Dalyer is that, inevitable.

I'm sure we'll come around to it eventually. We're always slow on the uptake down in Drumcondra.

You'll note I said uptake, not "on the take". We were great at that.

[Philosophizer]

Moving to Irishtown/Ringsend has merit and is worth discussing from the POV that we're from there.

What ground would be the best option? Shelbourne park perhaps, or Irishtown stadium?

Otherwise, what would the Shels faithful think of moving even further south of Shelbourne itself, possibly into the RDS or even Donnybrook stadium? Either or them would seem like a decent location, right in the heart of the south side surrounded by massive population, and either of those stadia would be lovely for a LOI club. Donnybrook might be pushing it as it's about a mile south of Shelbourne, but it's still probably closer to Shelbourne than Drumcondra.

On a slightly related topic. Does anyone know why Rovers didn't make the RDS their permanent home after Milltown? I know they had a relatively stable 5/6 year spell there in the 90s and it's probably no coincidence that they won their only league of the homeless era there. It's in a very advantageous location for a LOI club. Could they not afford the rent, or did the RDs society not want a permanent football tenant?

[legendz]

What ground would be the best option? Shelbourne park perhaps, or Irishtown stadium?

Otherwise, what would the Shels faithful think of moving even further south of Shelbourne itself, possibly into the RDS or even Donnybrook stadium?

Moving into the RDS will be like Limerick in Thomond Park.
I'd be curious to know if Shels core members and supporters were voting on Dalymount Park or moving back southside, which way would they most likely go?

[Philosophizer]

Moving into the RDS will be like Limerick in Thomond Park

Maybe they could play at a smaller stadium and just use the RDS for their European games 😉

[GCdfc]

What ground would be the best option? Shelbourne park perhaps, or Irishtown stadium?

Otherwise, what would the Shels faithful think of moving even further south of Shelbourne itself, possibly into the RDS or even Donnybrook stadium? Either or them would seem like a decent location, right in the heart of the south side surrounded by massive population, and either of those stadia would be lovely for a LOI club. Donnybrook might be pushing it as it's about a mile south of Shelbourne, but it's still probably closer to Shelbourne than Drumcondra.

Donnybrook is only about 2km from the Belfield Bowl. What do you propose doing with UCD if Shels were to move there?

[BonnieShels]

This thread is heading into farce now.

[Mr A]

Shels for Donnybrook, UCD for Swords. Cabo for Cabinteely. Cork for France. Ice for the Eskimos.

[nigel-harps1954]

Shels for Donnybrook, UCD for Swords. Cabo for Cabinteely. Cork for France. Ice for the Eskimos.

Oman for Limerick?

[Charlie Darwin]

Gaza for Dundalk.

[fionnsci]

Donnybrook is a non-runner, it has a top class rugby astorturf now, not suitable for football. The clubs are also extremely protective of it. RDS is far too big for a LOI club (the main stands in the new Dalymount are going to be waaaay too big also at 4,500, gonna be an atmosphere-killer but sin scéal eile).

In terms of the four options mentioned above, I think the two most likely ones (ground share with Bohs, and stay rotting in Tolka) would be terrible for Shelbourne. For the club to thrive, there needs to be a change. I know that it's not the cup of tea for every Shels fans but there are hundreds of thousands of potential football fans in north Dublin just there for the taking.

[Lim till i die]

Personally I think the most obvious next move for shelbourne is into the leinster senior league.

[legendz]

Shelbourne for Kerry! Two birds with the one stone!! G'wan the Kingdom!!!

[Eminence Grise]

Donnybrook is only about 2km from the Belfield Bowl. What do you propose doing with UCD if Shels were to move there?

Merge, obviously. Shelbourne-UCD could play as SUCD - it'd be a headline writer's dream.

For the club launch/Euro campaign - SUCD Off/in Europe
For relegation woes - SUCD into Dogfight
For the captain's honesty after a bad game - We SUCD!
For FAI fines, league fee etc - SUCD Dry by FAI

I can only see it as a winner.