QuoteAdn there's teh fact that PSG completed 4 passes from the 88th min onwards... 3 of which were kick-offs.
I also forgot to mention the 4 minutes extra time that turned in to 5, presumably added on for the penalty ?
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Adn there's teh fact that PSG completed 4 passes from the 88th min onwards... 3 of which were kick-offs.
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That's a far more simplistic analysis I think.Originally Posted by geysir
The simple truth is that you're biased against many things Barca, well beyond the point of irrationality to have an intense dislike, therefore your opinions on Barca have to be taken with doses of salt.
Barca were awesome last night from beginning to end, from the back to the front, as were their fans for the whole game.
Officially there were 5 minutes of extra time.
For a team that had to overcome a 4-0 deficit, Barca were absolutely outstanding. When the PSG goal went in, it was curtains but they still managed to get the goals they needed to go through. Sure they gave up chances, they were always going to. To downplay the achievement and performance though is actually laughable.
And it was a definite penalty. Marquinhos and Meunier should hang their heads in shame, couldn't handle the Barca players at all and resorted to stupidity. Marquinhos practically crawled on all fours to get in the way of and take out Suarez for the second penalty.
The achievement will stand the test of time, there's no disputing that. And of course any team that overturns that sort of deficit deserves an awful lot of credit. Like them or loathe them, everybody accepts that Barcelona have been a brilliant footballing side with incredible players over the past decade or so.
Last night's game and this tie generally can be analysed/discussed on it's own merits though and I wouldn't really agree with much of yourself or Geysir's versions of how things unfolded. It seems to me like ye've been swept away by the drama of it all, laughable really for two foot.ie stalwarts.
I've seen Barcelona play a lot better than they did last night and I think they were gifted an awful lot, both through PSG's incompetence and that of the referee. Despite my irrational (and intense - apparently) dislike for them I thought the first penalty was the right decision, although a lot of neutral observers think it was a clear dive, that Neymar initiated the contact. I can't agree with you on the second one, the defender got himself into a poor position but there's just no way that's a penalty in my book. Not even close.
And without it - the majestic comeback falls a fair bit short one would have to assume... no tears of joy, no talk of 'more than a club', no Pique tweets of how the Catalan hospitals will need to hire extra nurses in nine months time... just a sombre feeling of regret and anti-climax followed by a post-mortem, analysing their shortcomings and how they left themselves too much to do after their shambolic showing in the first leg. Small margins.
I thought Messi and Suarez were relatively average on the night, especially by their own high standards. I don't think PSG were remotely terrorised for twenty-five minutes after Cavani scored, psychologically or otherwise. The two goals in the first half were really atrocious concessions from a Paris point of view and little to do with Barca genius.
None of that matters anyway, the simple fact remains that they won 6-5 on aggregate and are through to the quarter finals. Fair play to them, but we don't have to all agree that it was purely magical and that there were no other contributory factors to help the stars align for them to pull it off. If going through those finer details in an objective way appears to downplay the achievement, then so what.
P.S. - Did you get early release for good behaviour?
Last edited by DeLorean; 09/03/2017 at 10:24 PM.
Fair enough! Would be boring if we all saw things the same way.
I was just banned from the Current Affairs forum. Sad!
Not laughable at allThe achievement will stand the test of time, there's no disputing that. And of course any team that overturns that sort of deficit deserves an awful lot of credit. Like them or loathe them, everybody accepts that Barcelona have been a brilliant footballing side with incredible players over the past decade or so.
Last night's game and this tie generally can be analysed/discussed on it's own merits though and I wouldn't really agree with much of yourself or Geysir's versions of how things unfolded. It seems to me like ye've been swept away by the drama of it all, laughable really for two foot.ie stalwarts.
Far from being scientific, but I'd hazard a guess that the vast majority of players, ex-players, managers and ex managers were swept away by the drama that unfolded.
As Didi Hamman said "I've still got goosebumps now"
"I've never seen anything like that and I'll never see anything like that again.
"They had to come back twice"
In the words of Verratti, post gameI've seen Barcelona play a lot better than they did last night and I think they were gifted an awful lot, both through PSG's incompetence and that of the referee. Despite my irrational (and intense - apparently) dislike for them I thought the first penalty was the right decision, although a lot of neutral observers think it was a clear dive, that Neymar initiated the contact. I can't agree with you on the second one, the defender got himself into a poor position but there's just no way that's a penalty in my book. Not even close.
And without it - the majestic comeback falls a fair bit short one would have to assume... no tears of joy, no talk of 'more than a club', no Pique tweets of how the Catalan hospitals will need to hire extra nurses in nine months time... just a sombre feeling of regret and anti-climax followed by a post-mortem, analysing their shortcomings and how they left themselves too much to do after their shambolic showing in the first leg. Small margins.
I thought Messi and Suarez were relatively average on the night, especially by their own high standards. I don't think PSG were remotely terrorised for twenty-five minutes after Cavani scored, psychologically or otherwise. The two goals in the first half were really atrocious concessions from a Paris point of view and little to do with Barca genius.
"We knew that all the players of Barcelona were better than us, all we had to do was play as a team, play together."
Il Barcellona ci ha costretto a giocare così bassi, "Barca forced us to play this bad"
Del, when it comes to Barca, it's sour grapes topped with bitter lemon.
Laughable really
I really don't care enough to be compromised by personal preferences, and I've zero affection for PSG in any case. But believe that if you like.
Re: Hamman - "I've never seen anything like that and I'll never see anything like that again."
Istanbul 2005?? - Okay they didn't have to come back twice but it surely falls in the same ball park, and far more significant in many respects (i.e. the rank outsiders making the comeback, actually winning the trophy as a result against all the odds, not only on the night but from the outset). Deportivo winning the 2nd Leg 4-0 against Milan a year or two previously also, having lost 4-1 at the San Siro.
Give me a break Didi.
Re: Veratti - saving face maybe? It appears better for them if the praise is just heaped on Barca. His fans obviously don't agree with his take on things. - http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/39226413
Last edited by DeLorean; 10/03/2017 at 10:27 AM.
DeL you are a leading light in this anti-Barca faction. Mes que un poster.
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You'll love this guy so - https://www.theguardian.com/football...a-cheating-psg
I like Ewan Murray anyway. I was saving that article for my train journey later.
Barca's cheating is not new. And that's before we get into the scientific enhancements that they allegedly utilise.
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In fairness I thought the article was a bit pretentious (from an English players are whiter than white point of view).
I haven't read it yet. But that is usually the angle that's taken, or it's the angle I assume is behind any article or discussion by an English journalist on diving.
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Oh, the referee was clearly in Barca's pocket.
Last edited by TheOneWhoKnocks; 11/03/2017 at 12:00 AM.
If he was why did he allow PSG kick the ball away on at least 5 occasions without showing a card.
The 2nd penalty when being seen live, looked like a penalty. Hamilton shouted "penalty" I think but the guy behind the goal would have had a better view but I agree it wasn't one.
Can anyone tell me why Barca is "more than a club" ?
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Because they see themselves as the embodiment of all that is good about Catalonia and Catalan Nationalism. Not to mention how they and their members put it up to Franco and (his team RM) in the Civil War.
It's guff.
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Yeah, that's it in a nutshell. - https://www.fcbarcelona.com/club/ide...e-than-a-club-
I don't take any notice of the slogan itself really, pretentious or otherwise. Every club is 'more than a club' to their own supporters.
It's a bit cringing when neutral observers get reeled in by it though, I'm looking at you Liam Brady.
A missed penalty from Sevilla and the Leicester fans can feel it. Nasri sent off.
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