Trap was a gas man wasn't he ? Nolan and Cunningham got the early nod but Coleman and McCarthy less so.
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Clarke just missed a great chance to give Bradford the lead when clean through on goal. He seemed to do everything right but Archer made a brilliant save in the Millwall goal.
Millwall have, undeservedly, taken the lead late on through Steve Morison. Clarke and O'Brien both substituted earlier on.
Millwall promoted. Wonder if Forde will be given another run in the Championship?
I don't share the total aversion for Balls.ie that I know some others here do and I find it quite handy for keeping up-to-speed with Irish sporting news I might otherwise miss, but I do have to say it really grates with me for some reason when the site goes into stuffy pontification mode, which it does quite frequently now and like how it does here in relation to hundreds of Millwall fans taking to the Wembley pitch yesterday after their team won the League One play-off final: https://www.balls.ie/football/steve-...wembley-365473
They describe the fans who took the pitch as "idiots"/"bloody idiotic"/"act[ing] the tw*t[s]" and described Millwall player Steve Morison as a "hero" for having scolded his fans.
Since when was a mass of jubilant supporters, who've followed their team through the highs and lows, running on to the pitch to celebrate with their team and players, with whom they've been on a season-long journey, such a moral outrage?
Just another thought; have Millwall fans received a bad rap because they already have a "reputation" or would Bradford's fans have been similarly scolded had Bradford won the game and their fans done the same thing?
Anyhow, fair play to Aiden O'Brien on sticking up for his supporters: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2017...itch-invaders/
Originally Posted by RTÉ
That's not the impression I got from the Balls.ie piece. The piece doesn't actually mention anything about abuse.
There's a video of Bradford's manager Stuart McCall being interviewed in the Wembley events office post-match and, in that, he takes issue with himself and his players having been on the receiving end of taunting and "verbals" from some Millwall fans. That's a fair enough complaint, although Balls.ie mention nothing of it, whilst McCall does add that he's "not necessarily blaming the people that did it". Rather, he says that stewards should have formed a barrier across the half-way line, presumably to have kept the Millwall fans in their own half, rather than saying the fans should have stayed off the pitch altogether.
Steve Morison simply took issue with the fact that fans of his club were trying, in a good-natured manner, to embrace/congratulate him and his manager on the pitch after the game. Balls.ie actually referred to a fan who tried to hug them as "act[ing] the tw*t". There was no abuse exchanged during that encounter; the supporter looked happy/cheerful, understandably (considering his club had just won the play-off final), and seemed a bit perplexed by the negative reaction of the Millwall captain after he was shunned.
The Sky commentators also said the Millwall fans "in their joy [had] over-stepped the mark a little" and were "going to spoil it for everybody" simply because there were "too many supporters on the pitch". They mentioned nothing about abuse. They wouldn't even have been aware of any abuse exchanged at that time anyway.
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 21/05/2017 at 3:38 PM.
mentioned in an article on the Express' site here: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/807...vasion-Wembley
Can't find where I originally read it, might have been todays Independent, but it's not on their site
I'm not denying there was abuse and taunting towards Bradford staff and players from some of the fans who took to the pitch. I'm aware of it, Stuart McCall spoke of it and I mentioned that above.
My point is that the abuse isn't what Balls.ie, the Sky commentators and Millwall captain Steve Morison had been taking issue with. None of them mentioned anything about abuse when they were expressing their condemnation of the Millwall supporters. Rather, they were getting outraged over supporters simply having been on the pitch, which I think just goes to demonstrate the ever-growing disconnect between supporters and the clubs they support at modern elite-level. The pitch-invading fans were seen to have transgressed or breached a now-ingrained partition that holds the experience of supporters to be very much secondary and as something to be controlled and sanitised.
Taking to the pitch after a cup-final or whatever used to be a common thing. It happens in sports all around the world. It is a collective and generally harmless expression of jubilation and celebration between triumphant supporters and their victorious heroes. Abuse and threats of violence aren't necessary components of a celebratory pitch invasions, so, in my view, the mere sight of fans on the pitch after yesterday's match was, in and of itself, hardly something for observers to be getting into a state of moral outrage about.
Last edited by DannyInvincible; 21/05/2017 at 5:02 PM.
I am afraid that is one of my pet hates - running on the pitch, especially now that I am too old to run anymore. It denies the team a lap of honour and the players just get swamped and can't celebrate with each other and the losers are surrounded by the other side's supporters with potential for trouble. I agree that it's just not the Millwall supporters who do this. It's now a part of the culture like taking off a jersey when a player scores, which I don't get either, but then my stomach makes me look like an unfit darts player so no jersey removal for me.
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
Might have been missed out - entering the pitch is a criminal offence in the UK now. I think we've become accustomed to the sight of fans on the pitch at All Ireland finals, even though the GAA have been trying to stop that, and Munster fans would often invade the pitch after a big win, but again I can't remember the last time I was in Thomond Park when that happened.
God forbid a player was attacked by a fan carrying a knife.
It's a recipe for disaster.
Thank God it doesn't happen more often.
It's only a few years since Neil Lennon was attacked by a fan on the touchline.
What's to happen if you have a dozen, or hundreds, of maniacs on the pitch outflanking and outnumbering security with the players easy targets.
The GAA clamped down on pitch invasions in Croke Park, not so much anywhere else I think. For them I think it was numerous incidents involving losing fans accosting match officials as much as anything else.
While I appreciate the desire to be part of a victorious moment, there's enough potential for bad things to happen that I don't mind attempts to stop it altogether.
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I don't always find myself agreeing with the content in Spiked, but I concur with the author of this piece: http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite...8#.WSLhkuvyvDc
We shouldn't get hysterical by sensationalising matters or by unnecessarily and unfairly conflating pitch invasions with hooliganism. Nobody was physically attacked, hurt or injured due to the Millwall pitch invasion. I'd be very surprised if supporters weren't given a brisk pat-down by security (for potential weapons, bottles or other banned items) when entering Wembley anyway. Security checks are fairly standard. They even happen at LOI games where there's little potential for trouble breaking out, by and large.Originally Posted by Blair Spowart
And if there are hundreds of attendees looking for trouble already together in a stadium, whether they're on the pitch or not will hardly make a difference. The trouble at Lansdowne Road when England played us in 1995 was in the stands, for example; not on the pitch. Criminalising entire masses of jubilant football supporters doesn't weed out those genuinely intent on violence and aggression.
Another piece here that makes a number of particularly pertinent and insightful points: http://thetwounfortunates.com/in-def...tch-invasions/
(I'm going to quote them rather than ask people to trawl through the entire piece for them. Hope that's OK.)
Originally Posted by Susan Gardiner
Don't think Swan has made the squad since he joined. Not sure if he'll be kept on after the match - probably more unlikely if they go up.
Exeter lost 2-1 in the end.
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