Dear Pat plus whoever else is there.

**Lim till i die** · 06/11/2015, 9:28 PM

Now that that's done and dusted can we have no sulking like last year and get in a manager and ten or eleven players BEFORE the New Year?

Should be winning the first division tbf.

Thanks x x.

**NeverFeltBetter** · 06/11/2015, 9:37 PM

I was wondering what the proper course would be if Limerick stayed up, bot for sure now: Martin Russell should be relieved at the earliest convenience. I was dead wrong in defending him earlier in the season. His job was to keep Limerick up, he failed. Unable to properly motivate players, constantly playing out of form players - his son and Kanyuka worst of all - and some bizarre tactical choices.

But that's just one part of the catastrophe. Pat O'Sullivan's choices this season - the budget cut, the supporter banning and some bizarre public announcements especially - deserve much criticism. There was the Market's Field delay as well and the resulting return to Jackman Park.

And there are the players, some of them anyway. You can make excuses for the youth, and some others did great work late on in the season. But too many of them just did not have it in them. Didn't try enough.

No easy bounce back next year, no way. The crowds will vanish again - Limerick bottling it when they turn up is practically a recurring joke at this point - and who is going to be enticed by four games against Cabinteely anyway? Typical POS delay on signing players to be expected, and then there will be Shels, the Students, and the possibility of a resurgent Drogheda or Waterford to contend with.

I hope they leave Kanyuka in Balleybofey.

**Lim till i die** · 06/11/2015, 9:42 PM

I didn't mean sack Russell. His contract is up I'd be amazed if he wanted to stay. (Or if there was any huge desire amongst the board to keep him tbf)

**NeverFeltBetter** · 06/11/2015, 9:46 PM

Yeah, you're right. I'm still processing it all.

**Lims4ever** · 06/11/2015, 9:48 PM

Knew that piece of **** of a pitch would go against them best of luck to harps anyway. I would stick with Martin Russell can't see any point changing him , no doubt a lot of players will go but how many would we want to hold onto , for me Kelly , Duggan , Tracy , Paul / Paudie o Connor , Freddie hall , dean Clarke , Faherty but I'm sure it will be a struggle to hold onto them . As disappointing as tonight is it was hard to see the club surviving at the start of the season it has come along way since then need to get a solid team to get out of the first division next season and very important the fans stick with the club too many times people fall off the bandwagon when times get tough I think the club is in a much stronger place this time around to bounce back straight away

**Treaty Gooner** · 06/11/2015, 9:49 PM

Russell's the wrong man to get us out of the division but who is the right man? Surely there's enough coaches with the right qualifications locally that could do it? Tommy Barrett? Jason O'Connor? Mike Kerley?

**NeverFeltBetter** · 06/11/2015, 9:50 PM

Pat Scully!

**Lim till i die** · 06/11/2015, 9:51 PM

One of those has the necessary qualifications (Mike Kerley) and he wouldn't touch us with a forty foot pole. It would be five years of finishing midtable in the first division with the nicest football playing all local team you've ever seen anyway

**Treaty Gooner** · 06/11/2015, 9:52 PM

Don't just need a UEFA A for the 1st division? Not a UEFA Pro I mean.

**NeverFeltBetter** · 06/11/2015, 9:54 PM

Man, what are the chances O'Sullivan walks away now?

**Lims4ever** · 06/11/2015, 9:59 PM

What about these new investors gone with the prem I suppose , can't see how people can point the finger at Russell the team he was given to work with till the transfer window was a joke , it's experienced players like lee Lynch that need to hold there hands up when we needed the likes of him most and a few others they never showed up you can see why he has blown all the chances he has had across the water shame cause he has big talent

**Lim till i die** · 06/11/2015, 10:08 PM

Tommy is qualified then.... Goody gumdrops.

Saying we can't point the finger at Russell then pointing it at Lee Lynch

**Treaty Gooner** · 06/11/2015, 10:16 PM

Not sure I could blame the players. The manager didn't sign a keeper for half the season, kept faith with Kanyuka and Sean Russell and kept playing out from the back when we were punished time and again for it. I'm gutted but we did deserve to go down I'm afraid.

**Lim till i die** · 06/11/2015, 10:25 PM

It's not on Russell either. The budget at the start of the season and the delay in giving it to him are at the root of this disgrace. I blame Russell for conor o donnell alright.

**Market's Field** · 06/11/2015, 10:37 PM

I agree. Time to find out if limerick people really do care about a senior soccer team. Don't see any benefit in finger pointing and recriminations. Let's learn from the mistakes and try to hold on to at least a portion of the momentum that has been built up. Time for cool heads and those who care about the future of limerick fc to rally round. Good thing is I think people got exposed to what it could be like.

**Market's Field** · 06/11/2015, 10:38 PM

Mean to quote Lims4ever first message which is what I was agreeing with

**Lim till i die** · 06/11/2015, 10:45 PM

If only those bold people of Limerick would care about their senior soccer team!! I'm going to limerick games over 20 years and in general the team gets the support it deserves.

Don't you DARE come on here and try to take a way our finger pointing and recrimination. They're the limerick fans bread and butter.

**NeverFeltBetter** · 06/11/2015, 10:46 PM

I wish I could be positive regards support, but no way anything but a few stick around I think. Limerick's average last season in FD was 734.

And as much as that bandwagon element gets flak for their fickleness, the team consistently messes up whenever they turn up.

**Lim till i die** · 06/11/2015, 10:51 PM

With the markets field (assuming we play there) we should be budgeting for 800-1200 and looking to dominate the division. There are no good teams.

But instead we will **** about until mid January have no manager and five and a half players for the first day of preseason, panic and throw a couple of grand at rubbish in late February and find ourselves out of contention by late april. Come June we will **** 100 grand up against a wall because the next season will be DIFFERENT.

**Charlie Darwin** · 07/11/2015, 3:12 AM

Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter

I was wondering what the proper course would be if Limerick stayed up, bot for sure now: Martin Russell should be relieved at the earliest convenience. I was dead wrong in defending him earlier in the season. His job was to keep Limerick up, he failed. Unable to properly motivate players, constantly playing out of form players - his son and Kanyuka worst of all - and some bizarre tactical choices.

But that's just one part of the catastrophe. Pat O'Sullivan's choices this season - the budget cut, the supporter banning and some bizarre public announcements especially - deserve much criticism. There was the Market's Field delay as well and the resulting return to Jackman Park.

And there are the players, some of them anyway. You can make excuses for the youth, and some others did great work late on in the season. But too many of them just did not have it in them. Didn't try enough.

No easy bounce back next year, no way. The crowds will vanish again - Limerick bottling it when they turn up is practically a recurring joke at this point - and who is going to be enticed by four games against Cabinteely anyway? Typical POS delay on signing players to be expected, and then there will be Shels, the Students, and the possibility of a resurgent Drogheda or Waterford to contend with.

I hope they leave Kanyuka in Balleybofey.

Kanyuka has been a disaster in the final few games but he was still a massive improvement on what you had before.