QuoteLast on the list of people being pointed out or blamed for all of this is the players except Kanyuka.
Originally Posted by Lims4ever
By "given" you mean the players he chose and signed yes?
Last on the list of people being pointed out or blamed for all of this is the players except Kanyuka.
I totally agree that's what worries me most that messing around 7 players signed the beginning of pre season.
Overall I'm beyond gutted must admit when I heard it was non stop raining all day in donegal yesterday I feared the worst the pitch was shocking as it was add all that rain and the boys are trying to play on a cow patch.
Probably the most disappointing thing was everyone including the dog on the street could see Kanyuka was an accident waiting to happen and by jesus did he delivery spectacular yesterday of all days he should never of got near that side that was a huge costly error by Russell.
Going forward I don't know we're we go we are going to lose probably 70% 80% of that starting 11 as said above I just hope we get in player quickly and not ********* around in the middle of pre season with 7 players signed and all we are hearing the club are in talks with players.
On Martin Russell division one is a slog horrible pitches very physical is his style of play suited to that league? Imo no
Looking at the FD this season, I think Limerick should be considered equal to that top half (12 points between 4th and 5th) but Russell's record against FD opposition this year, and Drogs - 2 wins, 3 losses, 1 draw if you include the League Cup game - is not "Bounce back" form. While the limitations of the First Division help, with 3rd place enough to have a shot at promotion, I'm so uneasy about the future.
Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).
People are saying Martin Russell's style isn't the type of football to get us out of the first division but it isn't that cut and dried. Let's not forget he has won the first division before.
Usually the winner of the first division it's a combination of the most physical and the biggest budget but there are exceptions.
I didn't see Wexford last season but where they a big physical team hoofing the ball up the pitch? I find it hard to believe they where.
You need 3 things, a solid defense, a top midfielder and a 15-20 goals striker.
The club have said previously Martin will be going nowhere unless he decides he wants to. If Martin does go we do not need a local or young up and coming manager. We need someone with experience in the league that can bring in the right players. If we get a young up and coming manager then we need to give them time, possibly a few years.
If Martin stays then he needs to be more flexible in his approach and footballing philosophy. It's all well and good playing out from the back but need quality centre halfs to do that. For example of harps tried to play it out from the back against us we would have beat them handy. They played to their defenders strengths and reaped the rewards.
Last edited by Jofspring; 07/11/2015 at 11:11 AM.
Anyone hear Pat today on radio?
Yeah. Usual guff. If what he says comes true we'll be OK, but we've been here before. I really want to be proved wrong this time.
What did he say? Did we sign a player?
He said the money is there for Martin to retain anyone from the current team. New structure in place to finance the club and take the pressure off him. He also asked the players to come to him first before accepting another offer from another club. More info to be released shortly.
Well if that is the case we should be able to make a very decent first division squad even when some of the lads from this season move on.
Pat sat in the seats in Finn Park for 40 minutes by himself after the game just watching everyone celebrating. He looked a broken man. Chat from the dressing room after the game that he's possibly walking away.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
In fairness to him. He's saved the club and gave it a good foundation but it might be time for him to go although in his interview he said he's going nowhere. Without the new investment he's promised we'll be another 19 years in division 1.
He said about a week ago he has committed to two more years with more investors/businessmen coming in to help him. It seemed like it was regardless of what division we were in but you just never know.
Less talky more signy.
Realistically at least seven or eight of that starting eleven are gone.
Can't afford another off season of absolute guff.
"More info to be released shortly"
Would be massively surprised if he walked away.
May as well double this up as a who will stay who will go,
I think the following will stay:
Robbie Willams - seems to be settling here
Shaun Kelly - similar to Williams
Shane Tracey - local lad, fans like him, experienced.
Sean Russell - if Martin stays he should stay, thought he did well towards the end of the season.
Darragh Rainsford - local lad with the club a few years now, likely kept on.
Think we have a good chance that they'll stay:
Lee J Lynch - I reckon he needs to settle somewhere, has had a different club nearly every season for too many years now.
Shane Duggan - young family, Limerick man and captain. Hopefully Cork don't entice him down.
Ian Turner - back to cork? Hard to know, we took him when they didn't think he was good enough and Martin stuck with him.
Vinny Faherty - a player Galway didn't want anymore, Martin took him and took a punt on him. Hopefully he decides to stay on.
Not much hope of staying:
Paul O Connor - most likely get an offer from a Dublin club but like him to stay.
Dean Clarke - should have 3 or 4 offers on the table. Going to be hard to keep.
Patrick Kanyuka - released
Prince Ageymang - probably released, never given a chance under Martin Russell, looks like a very depressed young lad at the moment which is sad to see.
Ali Abass - got sick mid-season, not sure if that was actually a factor in him not playing, similar to prince.
Cyril Guedje - do I even need to say it.
Freddie Hall - would like him to stay but not sure his situation, offers elsewhere, what kind of wages he is on etc.
Then you have the players staying like:
Paudie O'Connor - still playing under 19's and a future senior team captain
Tony Whitehead - needs to step up as a regular next season, maybe as a full back instead of centre half.
Colm Murphy - not sure the story here, still injured?
Shane Costello - same, is he still injured?
Ross Mann - seems to be a good clubman, been on the bench most the season though so hard to tell how he will be in the first division.
Tommy Holland - if Hall and Ali gone then I'd like to see him maybe establish himself in the senior team, did well when called upon.
Val Feeney - tonnes of ability, looks class at under 19's, still hasn't shown it when given a chance, is next season his chance to do it.
From Junior soccer we should be looking at:
Garbhan Coughlan - bring him back in, still a class footballer, has won the first division twice and scored a few goals there too. Complete luxury player though with his style of football.
Keith Mawdsley - Young and scoring goals for fun in junior and with Herbertstown before that.
Aaron Nunan - I haven't actually seen him play if I'm honest but from talking to a lot of people he seems a very good prospect.
Hard to know if anyone else in the junior leagues to be honest but I hope Martin or whoever the manager is has a good look there. Plenty of time over the next two months.
That's a good summation Jofspring, gives me a bit of hope for sure.
I don't think O'Sullivan will walk away either, but you just never know what he will say or do next. I'm certain he took it harder than anyone last night of course.
Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).
Be surprised (but delighted if I'm wrong!) If Lee J and Shane Duggan hang around
Pat o sullivan said this morning on radio that he and Martin Russell are staying on that he will be 100% chairman next season.
Mawdsley's already been approached according to Facebook, by a number of LOI clubs apparently. Scoring goals for fun is right, has 24 or so. Sign him for the 19s and see how he does maybe?
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