QuoteIt would be ironic if say Gibson only had a UK passport,
i think they would still have to let him play for us.
Enough of this talk, no player is more or less Irish than any other, they're either Irish, and in possession of a passport, or they're not.
It would be ironic if say Gibson only had a UK passport,
i think they would still have to let him play for us.
Well said Tetsa!Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Great to see and hear Andy Townsend at the awards. A great pro and a great player for Ireland over the years.
Lets talk about six baby
It's getting tiring at this stage. At some point, it'd be nice to simply congratulate an award winner and move on rather than question anything about said person.
Well done to the winners, commiserations to the non-winning nominees, big game this weekend, let's focus on that instead.
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Andy Townsend was interviewed at the awards and spoke fondly of his experiences with Ireland:
A critical opinion from Peter Staunton on the awarding of the under-21 prize to you-now-who: http://www.goal.com/en-ie/news/3942/...d?ICID=AR_PN_1
I don't really like that article. A lot of strands of speculation and high doses of cynicism.
Also tries to make his point this way:
Tommie Hoban has 1 under-21 cap. Ian Lawlor has 2 under-21 caps. Jack Grealish has 6 under-21 caps. Taking the ultimate winner out of the equation, neither of them could have been cursing the FAI for not making them under-21 player of the year.It is also an insult to the efforts of the other candidates who turned up when asked and performed well under difficult circumstances, namely Ian Lawlor and Tommie Hoban
What is the criteria for winning the award? Is it based on club form as well as performances for the Ireland U21's? Or do you just have to be an Irish footballer under 21 years of age?
I'd be surprised if the motives behind the selected recipient strayed too far from this.
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Criteria is international performances only. From what I saw, Grealish was by far and away the U21s best player in an otherwise poor year.
Everything above board so I guess... and there was me thinking it was just an ideal opportunity to let TOD loose on young Jack.
Also, that article seems to completely ignore the implications of questioning Jack's motives in accepting the award. God almighty, what kind of person would come over to Ireland with all their family just to get a vase and a cheap holiday on home soil for their gran before sodding off to England at the first chance? Makes little sense on his part and the author is making dreadful inferences on Grealish's character. If he were going to switch then he would have done so before now to try and play himself into contention for the England under-21's before the Euro's in the summer.
Terrible article.
It smacks of that typical Irish affliction, seeking outrage when no reason for outrage exists.
Terrible article and ends up with him sliding to the lower levels of the human condition, on the slippery slope of the conditional probability factor.
Aside from all that, maybe a grammar buff can confirm, but is this not a present tense unreality?
"If Grealish was intending to play for Ireland the chances are he would have given a proper answer by now"
should be expressed as
"If Grealish were intending......."
This is it, yeah, I mean if he didn't want to be considered for the award he would just say so as he did about being available for selection surely ? And surely this was broached pre announcement of the short list with him by the FAI anyway, you would hope to save their own embarrassment if nothing else if he knocked it back publicly post announcement.
The only outrage I see is on this thread. Is there really a need to mock the journalist? The article wasn't that bad. This will come as a surprise to nobody but I agree with everything he said.
It's an opinion piece on a football website. Goal.com should be held to a different standard than the broadsheet publications.
That's why any indignation on my part would be reserved firmly for The Irish Times, The Irish Independent and The Irish Examiner for erroneously reporting that the player has nailed his colors to the Irish mast, which is not true.
Whatever about his body language, he said he would make a decision on his International future next year - be that September or be that 2016.
Nothing has changed in that regard.
Exactly, the obvious interpretation, until otherwise proven false, is that by turning up to accept the merited award, Grealish was re affirming his commitment.
He could have refused quietly. Stephen Ireland was voted YPOTY a few years back but he said he didn't want it, so somebody the second candidate got it.
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