Promotion/Relegation Play-Offs 2014

[patrickccfc]

2006 - the year of the fix

Things seem to have worked out well for ye since

[jinxy lilywhite]

Things seem to have worked out well for ye since

It's been a long road Patrick

[El-Pietro]

In fairness to Dunne he had Cork playing some really nice football at times and just looked to be a few players short of really challenging higher up the table, then Caulfield came in and looks like he got more of a financial backing than Dunne did, so he might feel a little hard done by.

budget was significantly reduced in 2014 after some very large losses last year.

Daryl Kavanagh, Adam Rundle and others were on decent money in 2013 and did not work out.

[Paddyfield]

The billionaire sponsors of Galway, who have already committed €300,000 to the club, intend to increase their investment.... according to their own website
http://www.thecomergroup.com/news/co...p-of-galway-fc

[WoodquayBoy]

That article is months old - refers to renaming of the stand 'this week', which certainly wasn't this week!

[Terry]

What he is highlighting is that the comer brothers will be investing in the club long term rather than just the 3 years.

[stann]

Out of the 21 play-off series' since they were introduced in 1992/1993, First Division sides have only been victorious on 9 occasions- Monaghan Utd (1993, 2011), Home Farm Everton (1996), Kilkenny City (2000), Dublin City (2005), Dundalk (2006), Finn Harps (2007), Sporting Fingal (2009), Galway FC (2014).

And feckin' hell, four of those nine were against us!
I do think the relegation part of the play-off should have been dispensed with by now - promotion play-offs by all means, but relegation should be automatic. An imbalance that the second-last-placed side might have weeks (or half the season ) to effectively abandon a busted flush of a premier division campaign and concentrate on the one game that will keep them up, while the promotion-seeking side knock the sh!te out of themselves to make that same game.
Must add my +1 to the Galway congrats though, best footballing side in the Division this year by some way.

[jinxy lilywhite]

And feckin' hell, four of those nine were against us!
I do think the relegation part of the play-off should have been dispensed with by now - promotion play-offs by all means, but relegation should be automatic. An imbalance that the second-last-placed side might have weeks (or half the season ) to effectively abandon a busted flush of a premier division campaign and concentrate on the one game that will keep them up, while the promotion-seeking side knock the sh!te out of themselves to make that same game.
Must add my +1 to the Galway congrats though, best footballing side in the Division this year by some way.

Still sore?

Promotion/Relegation play offs are what they are. All clubs know the rules before the campaign starts.

[stann]

Still sore?

Promotion/Relegation play offs are what they are. All clubs know the rules before the campaign starts.

Incisive. Play-offs are different in different jurisdictions, and have been known to change. The football league in England did away with the relegation aspect of their play-off system within a couple of seasons IIRC. Serie A never had it, I think. Of course all clubs know what the rules are before each season, doesn't alter the view that it's far from the best system.

You'd be surprised how quickly quite a lot of Blues fans got over that play-off, by the way (and the ill-advised and regrettable course of action taken afterwards), and any residual memory would have been fairly comprehensively wiped out by the season just endured, so jokey reference notwithstanding, no.
Nice to see it's still forefront in some people's minds though.

[BonnieShels]

And feckin' hell, four of those nine were against us!
I do think the relegation part of the play-off should have been dispensed with by now - promotion play-offs by all means, but relegation should be automatic. An imbalance that the second-last-placed side might have weeks (or half the season ) to effectively abandon a busted flush of a premier division campaign and concentrate on the one game that will keep them up, while the promotion-seeking side knock the sh!te out of themselves to make that same game.
Must add my +1 to the Galway congrats though, best footballing side in the Division this year by some way.

Still finished third. Gah.

[Ezeikial]

Still sore?

Promotion/Relegation play offs are what they are. All clubs know the rules before the campaign starts.

Not always

[nigel-harps1954]

Still sore?

Promotion/Relegation play offs are what they are. All clubs know the rules before the campaign starts.

Should we simply accept the status quo though? I think the idea of 2 up and 2 down is much more appealing straight out than a relegation play off, and that's not just because Harps are in the First Division. When we were last relegated, there was a shift in numbers in the Premier and three teams went straight down, meaning much more competition right through to the last day of the season towards the bottom end of the table.

Would certainly be in favour of two down, one up automatically with second/third promotion play-off as is the case in most European leagues.

[jinxy lilywhite]

Not always

I maybe wrong but as far I know 2006 had no promotion or relegation that season and positions were determined over some criteria that I forget. Also the game between Dundalk and Waterford in the playoff was not sanctioned and as I remember Des Casey at the time was on the restructuring panel and critised the game taking place.
Dundalk didn't make the cut that year and neither did Waterford but shelbournes collapse relegated them and Waterford took their place.

[jinxy lilywhite]

Should we simply accept the status quo though? I think the idea of 2 up and 2 down is much more appealing straight out than a relegation play off, and that's not just because Harps are in the First Division. When we were last relegated, there was a shift in numbers in the Premier and three teams went straight down, meaning much more competition right through to the last day of the season towards the bottom end of the table.

Would certainly be in favour of two down, one up automatically with second/third promotion play-off as is the case in most European leagues.

I would prefer the same because the league is the league and the placings should be defacto. In our league though with 12 team division v and 8 team there should be only 2nd v 2nd from bottom if there is a playoff.

Isn't there UEFA rule that if there is a change in league promotion/relegation then 2 years notice has to be given

[Ezeikial]

I maybe wrong but as far I know 2006 had no promotion or relegation that season and positions were determined over some criteria that I forget. Also the game between Dundalk and Waterford in the playoff was not sanctioned and as I remember Des Casey at the time was on the restructuring panel and critised the game taking place.
Dundalk didn't make the cut that year and neither did Waterford but shelbournes collapse relegated them and Waterford took their place.

It is a time and series of events that are probably best left where they lie.