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    Dundalk Fined For Palestine Flag at Euro Game

    Dundalk fined 20000 euro for Palestine slag vs Hadjuk Split
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    It's a ridiculous amount compared to other fines UEFA have levied for more serious issues.

    However, the gobshytes were warned by the club to keep their politics out the ground. Instead, this small merry band of morons think they are bigger than the club.

    Thanks SSA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATFC-1887 View Post
    Dundalk fined 20000 euro for Palestine slag vs Hadjuk Split
    Another racial jibe by Athlone fan.......

    Seriously though, the Spanish football federation were fined a similar amount for blatant racial chanting at an international match so this fine seems disproportionate. The SSA for all the effort the put in to creating atmosphere at Dundalk games have cost the club €24k now and are fast becoming a liability to the club, and all because of a couple of ego's of people who should know better as self proclaimed super fans...
    Last edited by Nesta99; 23/08/2014 at 12:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ATFC-1887 View Post
    Dundalk fined 20000 euro for Palestine slag vs Hadjuk Split

    Have you added another 0 by mistake there or is that actually it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy View Post
    Have you added another 0 by mistake there or is that actually it?
    Reported that it is 20k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Reported that it is 20k
    Madness way over the top.

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    I think this merits a thread of its own. Massively disproportionate punishment for what happened.

    Which is ironic in its own way.

    Figure is 18k according to this: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30530506.html
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    Confirmed as a 20k fine from UEFA. Throw in the 4k in pyro fines from this season and this crowd of wannabe Green Street gob****es and their glorious leader whose life revolves around the fact that he's King of the kids have cost the club 24k. Supposedly they've tried to get in touch with UEFA after the fine was announced, talk about delusions of grandeur and a complete lack of understanding of how the real world works outside of their little no pyro no party, not my problem, bubble. No doubt the most of them will go to ground now and disappear for a while. They think the everything should be done to suit them and that there are no consequences, funnily enough I can't see them stumping up the 24k they've cost the club.

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    What a joke. I'm pretty sure I've seen an Israel flag at Limerick games in the past.

    There must be some method of determining appropriate punishment in these kinds of cases. Does anybody know what the method is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by colonelwest View Post
    Confirmed as a 20k fine from UEFA. Throw in the 4k in pyro fines from this season and this crowd of wannabe Green Street gob****es and their glorious leader whose life revolves around the fact that he's King of the kids have cost the club 24k. Supposedly they've tried to get in touch with UEFA after the fine was announced, talk about delusions of grandeur and a complete lack of understanding of how the real world works outside of their little no pyro no party, not my problem, bubble. No doubt the most of them will go to ground now and disappear for a while. They think the everything should be done to suit them and that there are no consequences, funnily enough I can't see them stumping up the 24k they've cost the club.
    Whatever about the flares, the ire for this fine should be reserved for uefa. Ridiculous and disproportionate.

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    The bad news continues, LMFM reporting FAI also fined Dundalk for a flare let off in Cork 3 weeks ago, another €500 for the SSA to not pay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colonelwest View Post
    Confirmed as a 20k fine from UEFA. Throw in the 4k in pyro fines from this season and this crowd of wannabe Green Street gob****es and their glorious leader whose life revolves around the fact that he's King of the kids have cost the club 24k. Supposedly they've tried to get in touch with UEFA after the fine was announced, talk about delusions of grandeur and a complete lack of understanding of how the real world works outside of their little no pyro no party, not my problem, bubble. No doubt the most of them will go to ground now and disappear for a while. They think the everything should be done to suit them and that there are no consequences, funnily enough I can't see them stumping up the 24k they've cost the club.
    Also confirmed today another €500 for the flare in Cork!

    They were told to take down the flag (wrongly IMO but thats not the poinT) Were warned their would be a fine if it continued to be waved. They took it out 2 or 3 times during the game!

    If I was the club, Id just say **** it SSA Banned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy View Post
    Whatever about the flares, the ire for this fine should be reserved for uefa. Ridiculous and disproportionate.
    Chat sh*t, get banged to put it succinctly. The regs are there and applicable to all, these lads not so much as think they're above it, they just don't care. The fine is excessive but whether it's a €20 or 20k fine these clowns have been costing the club money for years now and the chickens have come home to roost with this.

    The flag was put up, the delegate asked for it to be removed, Skinny Bond and a few stewards went over and tried to take it down, blazing row with these cretins who think they should be allowed to do what they like, when they like, flag eventually got taken down. Now if the SSA hadn't gone and stuck it back up that would have been the end of it, no fine from UEFA but these boyos (their glorious leader has an axe to grind with the club after not being given a proverbial jobs for the boys position after the takeover to boot) went ahead and took it out a few times after that.

    The fine will probably be reduced on appeal but the ire for this and the other 4k, actually 4.5k as the FAI have just said we're getting hit with another €500 fine for the flare at the Cork game a few weeks ago, lies solely and squarely at the door of the SSA and this little gang who think they can do what they like and get away with it. Do you think any of them will put their hand in their pocket? I highly doubt it.

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    The club need to start issuing lifetime bans to the guys, simple as that. There was a clear photo on the tv for one of them holding a flare up away to Pats this season.

    Banning them for life could potentially save the club thousands, and they have been continuously warned, club took out full page ads in the match programme, sent tweets, posted on FB, website, and all were ignored.
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    As a Dundalk fan I am focussing on the stupidity and recklessness of those who claim to be "supporters" of the club.

    Fans of other clubs will no doubt point out the ridiculous and disproportionate size of the fine. However, Dundalk fans must not allow this to distract themselves from confronting a problem that has been allowed to fester and grow; the presence of a self appointed small band of hangers-on who use the club as a vehicle for their own self-aggrandisement and ego trips.

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    I guess it's impossible, but is there any chance that legally, Dundalk can go after these clowns for the money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy View Post
    Whatever about the flares, the ire for this fine should be reserved for uefa. Ridiculous and disproportionate.
    Exactly, of course the club and FAI will bend the knee.

    According to this flying a Palestinian flag looked well below a lot of the casual racism on show at a good few clubs
    http://www.farenet.org/news/incident...are-july-2014/

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    To put the total in fines another way, these clowns have cost the club 2 players or Ritchie Towell from the playing budget over a 37 week season. Absolutely beggars belief.

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    I'd say the fact dundalks stewards actually took down the flags initially may go in their favour on appeal but I'd still imagine a heavy heavy fine at the end of it all

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    What is especially galling is that the club tried so hard to prevent these flags been flown at the game. This following is a statement by the so called Shed Side Army at the time:

    Shedside supporters club are appalled and disgusted at the actions of Dundalk FC officials at the recent Europa league qualifier game on Thursday the 17th of July where Dundalk FC officials tore down Palestinian flags which Shedside supporters club had erected behind the goals (town end).

    Shedside supporters club had erected these flags as a show of solidarity with the people of Palestine purely on the basis of humanitarian grounds. The erection of the flags was not a political statement.

    There was four flags, one for each of the young children that was coldly murdered on a beach in Gaza in recent days. Many powerful political leaders and nations from around the world have condemned these actions. We the Shedside supporters club wanted to show the families of these four young children and the people of Palestine and Gaza that they are in our hearts, thoughts and prayers. We see no wrong in that.

    We heavily condemn the actions of the Dundalk FC officials and call for an immediate statement and apology from Dundalk FC regarding this issue. If the actions of the officials where on the orders from the UEFA official present at the game then we also condemn them and call for and immediate statement and apology.

    No one should be silenced or told not to show their support for people who are been coldly murdered. We most certainly will not be silenced!!

    The Shedside supporters club would appreciate it if you could share this statement and show us and the people of Palestine our's and your support.

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