Harry Arter (M Nots Forrest b.1989)

**tricky_colour** · 21/05/2017, 3:30 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Not in the squad today for Bournemouth

Is he injured?

**tetsujin1979** · 21/05/2017, 3:42 PM

Originally Posted by tricky_colour

Is he injured?

Dead leg apparently: https://twitter.com/PremierInjuries/...92932114079746

Eddie Howe fears Harry Arter could miss the final game of the season after he was forced off vs Burnley because of injury [dead leg]. #AFCB

**mark12345** · 21/05/2017, 5:03 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Dead leg apparently: https://twitter.com/PremierInjuries/...92932114079746

With McCarthy, Long, Clark and Meyler all missing, the FAI medical staff will need to bring some life back to Harry's leg and soon

**tricky_colour** · 21/05/2017, 6:55 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Dead leg apparently: https://twitter.com/PremierInjuries/...92932114079746

That is good to hear, if you see what I mean, I'd be concerned if he wasn't injured!

**TheOneWhoKnocks** · 21/05/2017, 7:10 PM

Howe also refers to "ankle" and "achilles" problems he has been nursing, so at the least I suspect he won't travel to America, but i'd expect him to be in the frame to start against Austria.

**Closed Account** · 31/05/2017, 10:20 PM

Out in night clubs in New York instead of being at home resting. It makes me sick how some of these professional footballers spend their free time.

**Charlie Darwin** · 01/06/2017, 12:04 PM

**tetsujin1979** · 03/06/2017, 1:52 PM

Arter missing close friend Simon Francis' wedding for Ireland duty: http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/spo..._Ireland_duty/

**TheOneWhoKnocks** · 03/06/2017, 2:06 PM

No Christmas cards for Arter from Simon Francis this year.

Found it a bit weird when I seen that Francis story. With an average of 12 or so Intl fixtures and 30 days or so of Intl duty a year, I thought it was a given that professional footballers miss plenty of weddings.

I thought the whole point Kevin Long's story got media attention was because it was his brother's wedding, he was due to be best man and he was travelling to America with no guarantees of playing.

If someone missed a competitive game for us to go to a teammate's wedding I would be asking serious questions!

According to this, Whelan and Arter arrived at the team hotel this morning, so I don't know if they will have trained.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/socc...quad-1.3107114

**DannyInvincible** · 03/06/2017, 3:05 PM

Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Arter missing close friend Simon Francis' wedding for Ireland duty: http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/spo..._Ireland_duty/

If Arter really wasn't bothered about playing for Ireland and has been faking injury time and time again in order to avoid both friendlies and competitive games, then he'd surely have just done that again in this instance (seeing as he's been complaining of ankle and Achilles problems as well as a dead leg in recent weeks anyway) and gone to his close friend's wedding instead of meeting up with the squad ahead of the Uruguay friendly tomorrow. The fact he is showing up for friendly international duty and missing one of his close friend's wedding in the process is surely demonstrative - to the cynical and paranoid - of his commitment.

**Stuttgart88** · 04/06/2017, 10:59 AM

I'm not of the view that he's a flake but missing a friend's wedding to play competitive international football would be no big deal for most people.

**seanfhear** · 04/06/2017, 11:06 AM

Especially when your man could be getting married again anytime soon in this day and age..........

**DannyInvincible** · 04/06/2017, 1:39 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I'm not of the view that he's a flake but missing a friend's wedding to play competitive international football would be no big deal for most people.

I agree, but this is Harry Arter we're talking about, who supposedly couldn't be bothered playing for Ireland, so he fakes injuries all the time. Or so the theory goes...

Edit: And isn't he missing the wedding for a friendly game? The wedding is today.

**TheOneWhoKnocks** · 04/06/2017, 1:56 PM

Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I'm not of the view that he's a flake but missing a friend's wedding to play competitive international football would be no big deal for most people.

The tenor of the article really confuses me. Is everyone supposed to congratulate him and high five him because he missed a teammate's wedding so he could participate in a competitive football match? Kinell...

If Arter's presence at his wedding is so important he wouldn't have booked it during an International window.

**TheOneWhoKnocks** · 04/06/2017, 9:53 PM

Arter on commitment concerns.

http://www.the42.ie/harry-arter-irel...27297-Jun2017/

Kevin Palmer wrote an article that said Arter was "frustrated" after being left out of the side to play Serbia. This was after representing us four times.

He subsequently pulled out of two squads in controversial circumstances.

In light of this, and reading through the lines, it's easy to see where people might pick up concerns about his attitude.

Compare this to Stephen Quinn, who incidentally came on in his stead against Serbia, travelling to Dublin to train with the squad and continue his recuperation.

And Seamus Coleman travelling with the squad too.

It's all well and good he started today and played well but we don't need someone copping attitude if he isn't selected.

We have plenty of good midfield players - whoever is selected against Austria - our strength lies in the sum of our parts.

**mark12345** · 04/06/2017, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks

Arter on commitment concerns.

http://www.the42.ie/harry-arter-irel...27297-Jun2017/

Kevin Palmer wrote an article that said Arter was "frustrated" after being left out of the side to play Serbia. This was after representing us four times.

He subsequently pulled out of two squads in controversial circumstances.

In light of this, and reading through the lines, it's easy to see where people might pick up concerns about his attitude.

Compare this to Stephen Quinn, who incidentally came on in his stead against Serbia, travelling to Dublin to train with the squad and continue his recuperation.

And Seamus Coleman travelling with the squad too.

It's all well and good he started today and played well but we don't need someone copping attitude if he isn't selected.

We have plenty of good midfield players - whoever is selected against Austria - our strength lies in the sum of our parts.

Copping attitude? Seriously TOWK.
Have people not talked this thing to death already. His commitment was never in doubt except to some who had no evidence to the contrary.
He played a brilliant game in Austria and helped us to three vital points, putting us where we are today.
He shows up this weekend for a friendly, missing his mate's wedding and plays out of his skin and you say "we don't need someone copping attitude."

Based on his performance today - you think you should issue the man an apology?

**TheOneWhoKnocks** · 04/06/2017, 10:26 PM

I never thought he was going to declare for England, that's not what I mean when I refer to commitment.

**DannyInvincible** · 04/06/2017, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by mark12345

Copping attitude? Seriously TOWK.
Have people not talked this thing to death already. His commitment was never in doubt except to some who had no evidence to the contrary.
He played a brilliant game in Austria and helped us to three vital points, putting us where we are today.
He shows up this weekend for a friendly, missing his mate's wedding and plays out of his skin and you say "we don't need someone copping attitude."

Based on his performance today - you think you should issue the man an apology?

Here's an article by Kevin Palmer on Arter from last November where Arter speaks of what had been frustrating him, if you would like to interpret Arter's words for yourself rather than rely on an unreliable, malicious and prejudicial misrepresentation: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-35208436.html

Originally Posted by Harry Arter

There are a lot of players in the Ireland squad who have been part of the set-up for a lot longer than me and the manager has trust in them. The reality is that the boss doesn’t know me as well as he does a lot of the players and it’s up to me to gain his trust and force my way into the team.

There is competition to get into the Ireland midfield and, while I have been a bit frustrated not to play in a competitive game so far, part of the reason for that is the injuries I have had around Ireland matches in the last year or so. I feel ready to make the step up now.

**mark12345** · 04/06/2017, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks

Arter on commitment concerns.

http://www.the42.ie/harry-arter-irel...27297-Jun2017/

In light of this, and reading through the lines, it's easy to see where people might pick up concerns about his attitude.
It's all well and good he started today and played well but we don't need someone copping attitude if he isn't selected.
We have plenty of good midfield players - whoever is selected against Austria - our strength lies in the sum of our parts.

Some very harsh words in there. Were they not written by you? I'm having a hard time trying to understand your subsequent explanation.

**tetsujin1979** · 04/06/2017, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks

In light of this, and reading through the lines, it's easy to see where people might pick up concerns about his attitude.

Or what conclusions the bias of said people would lead them to draw

Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks

Compare this to Stephen Quinn, who incidentally came on in his stead against Serbia, travelling to Dublin to train with the squad and continue his recuperation.

And Seamus Coleman travelling with the squad too.

Coleman was invited to the squad by O'Neill, so pretty irrelevant.

Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks

It's all well and good he started today and played well but we don't need someone copping attitude if he isn't selected.

He hasn't copped attitude at at all so far