Between all the fans on foot.ie alone, I'm sure we'd be able to put something together ourselves if it came to it?
Between all the fans on foot.ie alone, I'm sure we'd be able to put something together ourselves if it came to it?
Considering that it licenced fee there should be a charter in place to at least have a token coverage of domestic sports. I'm pretty sure the BBC have to cover certain events no matter how minority interest they maybe.
I think that last time there was a public charter in RTE it was done in secret. It was mentioned here that it was going to be completed and no one heard sight nor sound of it in that two year period. Public my árse, i wouldn't believe a word of it.
Domestic football is absolutely their remit, and it should be their primary concern, and have the biggest share of resources (money, time, effort) devoted to it, but they failed on every level.
The league clubs seem to be indifferent about it though, and THAT is the most concerning thing about it all !?!?!!?!?!
The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
jaysus a face, will you get a grip?
What makes you think this? Just because they don't **** and moan about stuff on their websites, doesn't mean they're not concerned about issues relating to their welfareThe league clubs seem to be indifferent about it though, and THAT is the most concerning thing about it all !?!?!!?!?!
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No way Dodge, because I think that its the whole crux of the matter. They are a National Broadcaster, they take a licence fee, they are opposing it being divided out, they already get allowances even though they are a National Broadcaster and i get all that and don't have a problem with it per say BUT I think its cut and dry ..... National Broadcaster = National League .... I cant understand how they haven't been brought to task on this, its like there is an apathy around it or something. Do people think they can operate on their own and do as they like?
And its not like i'm not consistent either, I was saying even before TV3s effort over a decade ago.
Are you telling me that the league clubs have collectively flexed their muscles EVER to do something about it?What makes you think this? Just because they don't **** and moan about stuff on their websites, doesn't mean they're not concerned about issues relating to their welfare
A simple Yes or No will do.
Even before the FAI took over? Dodge, most on here are fairly closely aligned with their clubs for decades and i think as football fans go, we are a fairly knowledgeable bunch and there isn't one amongst us could tell you when ever league clubs did something about this in any meaningful way. Yes i know they are not happy about it, and i hope to god they aren't moping about over it but what are they doing about it? What have they done? You cant quantify it because there isn't anything to quantify it. Bar a couple of strongly worded letters the league clubs have sat on their hands for the last 20 years, on an issue that is pivotal to making this league sustainable.
Even when the FAI were trying to barter with the National games etc. the league should have been making moves to strengthen our position, but truth be told (if RTE pull the plug on MNS) we are no better off than we were before eircom League Weekly back in the day. You cant argue that, we are back to square one at this stage.
Of course they shouldn't be moaning on websites, that is absolutely not the mechanism to do anything about it, there are other ways to achieve it and if it were me i'd start with finding out what RTE are legally obliged to do as regards coverage. If you dont ask then you wont get ..... and if the league clubs don't ever start to challenge this then nothing with ever change, you cant blame RTE because they are not being asked, they are getting away with it so why would they change?
Every chairman and CEO of league clubs right now, are presently the ones to blame, until they step down, and pass on the baton of blame !!!
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The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
Simply put, nobody gets their own way all the time. The league is in no position to demand more coverage than it gets. The league gets more coverage than all other football gets combined. How can you argue otherwise?
You can't asnwer yes or no to something as vague as that FFS. Have you ever considered that they happen to think that 20 live games and a weekly highlights package is MORE than acceptable?Are you telling me that the league clubs have collectively flexed their muscles EVER to do something about it?
A simple Yes or No will do.
So 20 live games and a weekly hour long highlights show on at 7pm is the same as a handful of live games at 30 minutes on at 10.30/11pm? LauaghableEven when the FAI were trying to barter with the National games etc. the league should have been making moves to strengthen our position, but truth be told (if RTE pull the plug on MNS) we are no better off than we were before eircom League Weekly back in the day. You cant argue that, we are back to square one at this stage.
Blame for what? I can't see how you think there should be more coverage. Even your own club moaned about being on TV too much. If you're serious about "blaming" chairman, you might want to ask them how much they lose each time they're on TVEvery chairman and CEO of league clubs right now, are presently the ones to blame, until they step down, and pass on the baton of blame !!!
I don't mean to get personal a face, but you're going way OTT on this.
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Both great arguments lads. Personally I'd sit on the fence here. There's definitely sufficient coverage of the Premier Division. Nobody could really ask for much more than one hour weekly highlights programme and 20-odd games a year.
The problem is, clubs see absolutely no financial reward with this. Clubs should be getting €5-10,000 euro a game shown live by RTÉ. They should get a yearly sum either at the start or end of the season to cover the highlights packages. It happens in every other world league, but not ours.
There's coverage, and then there's poor coverage. While the actual quality of coverage is neither world class, nor terrible, it's the treatment of the clubs that renders this whole process awful. The attitude around RTÉ and the FAI seems to be that clubs should just be glad they're on TV and not complain about a lack of finance involved, which stinks to be fair.
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The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.
TG4's coverage is missed, though I don't speak much Irish they really made a decent effort of putting together a good package for live games.
It'll be interesting to see how next Monday's MNS is wrapped up... not looking likely there'll be any "see you next March" type statements.
As far as I can remember they have only been showing the AIL final in recent years. There is against the head alright but that doesn't kick in till the six nations and at that stage you are only talking about the end of the ail seasons highlights. With coverage of the pro 12 they have pretty much given up on AIL. LOI crowds are bad but AIL is worse for most clubs.
I wouldn't be too bothered if Setanta took over live games and the highlights as well or some arrangement with TV3. I think there's some link in ownership. Setanta have been doing a decent job of highlights from across the water.
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A Championship: 4 years - 8 first teams - 0 financially ruined. First Division '14: 7 first teams.
Opportunity lost for new clubs/regions to join the LoI family.
Normally at the end of MNS each season they say "we'll see you again in march" This year Collins said "until next time" I'd guess nothing has been agreed between the FAI and RTE regarding future seasons. I think that could have been the last MNS...
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