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    not Irish players, but a short film following three players who were released from their league clubs at 18 going to exit trials
    All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time: http://twitter.com/irish_abroad and posted to facebook: https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics

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    Former Donegal GAA manager and Celtic performance consultant Jim McGuinness has been appointed assistant coach at Chinese Super League club Beijing Sinobo Guoan: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/gaelic-games/40454791

    As far as I know, McGuinness has already completed the FAI Coaching Pathway, Kick Start 2 and the FAI Youth Cert Coaching Course.

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    An article here about how Swedish clubs are tackling the detrimental impact of pushy parents at kids' football matches.

    'Stop shouting: how Sweden tackled misbehaving parents at kids’ football': https://www.theguardian.com/football...-football-code

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus Christenson
    It transpired [from a survey conducted by the three main Stockholm clubs] that one in three children had considered quitting the game because of what the survey called “over-engaged” parents. Of the 1,016 adults who answered the survey, 83% said they had seen parents who were pushing their children too much or criticised young referees and officials loudly.

    The three Stockholm clubs – Djurgarden, AIK and Hammarby, who had commissioned the survey together with Volkswagen – were appalled by the numbers and decided to act. The clubs do not always see eye to eye (or at least their fans don’t) but they immediately joined forces to launch an initiative to combat the problem. They sat down together and came up with a short yet encompassing “football code” that they hope will lead to a change in behaviour by adults watching youth football.

    The code reads as follows: “I, as a parent, will do everything I can to support my child, other children, club staff, referees and parents in training and at games – through a positive involvement.” The response has been incredible. More than 1,600 parents have signed up to the code and more are doing so by the day. Parents have also asked the clubs to print the code on T-shirts so that the message can be shared more widely. Other top-flight clubs in Sweden have expressed an interest in joining the initiative.
    Maybe something for the FAI and Irish clubs/youth teams to consider.

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    Update on Jim McGuinness in China: https://www.balls.ie/football/jim-mc...g-guoan-368721

    His new team beat Phil Scolari's league-leaders, Guangzhou Evergrande, 2-0 at the weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannyInvincible View Post
    Update on Jim McGuinness in China: https://www.balls.ie/football/jim-mc...g-guoan-368721

    His new team beat Phil Scolari's league-leaders, Guangzhou Evergrande, 2-0 at the weekend.
    A game in China hardly relevant to the 'future of youth development in irish football'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siberian View Post
    A game in China hardly relevant to the 'future of youth development in irish football'
    He's been mentioned in this thread a few times as he was doing youth coach training with the FAI, so I stuck the update on his career here rather than starting a new thread. I didn't think a new thread dedicated solely to McGuinness would be justified for an assistant manager not actually involved in the international set-up, but maybe it would be appropriate. If mods/tets wish to move the McGuinness posts to a new thread, I'd have no problem with that whatsoever.

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    apart from the balls.ie link, I've no problem with it.
    All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time: http://twitter.com/irish_abroad and posted to facebook: https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    apart from the balls.ie link, I've no problem with it.
    I agree, Danny has committed the worst thread violation I've seen here yet.

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    Ah, but at least he didn't quote the whole 19 page transcript of the videos! I, for one, commend the restraint he showed.
    Hello, hello? What's going on? What's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here!
    - E Tattsyrup.

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    Haha!

    If only I had a Chinese keyboard...

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    ...you'd break the internet! And we'd all have to learn Mandarin to keep up with you!
    Hello, hello? What's going on? What's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here!
    - E Tattsyrup.

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    Future looks healthy for Irish football, says Rudd Dokter: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/s...er-453866.html
    All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time: http://twitter.com/irish_abroad and posted to facebook: https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics

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    "I'm doing a really good job", says man.

    Bit of a nothing article really.

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    Says man over the head of development

    Same time England win the under 19 euros. Didn't we win that once?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bennocelt View Post
    Says man over the head of development

    Same time England win the under 19 euros. Didn't we win that once?
    Yes Benno, but the man should be judged on his time here, not what happened a generation before his arrival.
    Ruud does not remark upon his influence having effect or is in anyway self congratulatory in those few lines he's quoted as saying.

    He came into a country where there was a dysfunctional structure in senior clubs from a culture in Netherlands where a community send their kids to their club and are a part of the club from cradle to grave, from generation to generation. Ajax don't just have an elite academy but have a plethora of underage teams playing at every grade at every underage level. It is the undisputed truth that the effect of a club having say a 100 - 200 underage teams both sexes, well coached and playing at all levels, is a club firmly rooted in the community with a solid base.

    When Ruud arrived in Ireland the first thing he remarked upon was that LOI clubs should have functioning academies and a country level underage league.
    He said he would not want his children to leave the country at age 15 or 16 to go abroad.
    Some LOI clubs on their own steam have made great strides with developing their acadamies,
    eg Shamrock Rovers have secured access to extra facilities, expanded their academy and have many teams competing in the district leagues..

    What Ruud can be judged upon is any progress made with the elite players at underage intl level.
    Coaching schools, the amount of qualified Pro, A and B coaches.
    The establishment and effect of the underage national leagues.
    Any FAI input since his arrival in supporting senior clubs to develop their academies.
    Progress made in general with provision of (or access to) playing and training facilities, at sane prices.

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    thanks for the well thought out reply Geysir.......anyway like anything time will tell

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    Stephen Hunt: Ireland's international future looks bright thanks to smart underage tactics: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-36184746.html
    All goals, yellow and red cards tweeted in real time: http://twitter.com/irish_abroad and posted to facebook: https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Stephen Hunt: Ireland's international future looks bright thanks to smart underage tactics: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-36184746.html
    He still has such a skewed view of things though. It's still all about sending the best kids to England according to him. Things like "They will have time and a place to come through and be ready to play for English clubs and then be ready to get game time. " and "Hopefully this new desire to improve the development of young footballers in Ireland will also help those who don't make it."

    Also, talk of the FAI 'taking guidance from English academies' is total nonsense. Why would Ruud Dokter follow a failed English example when the continental academies have been far more successful over the past twenty to thirty years?

    He said himself, he was impressed by the standard of football and how the players were being taught to play when he watched Waterford play Cork in an under-15 game. I can't understand why the focus cannot be on the underage game in Ireland without some mention of England and sending players over there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    He still has such a skewed view of things though. It's still all about sending the best kids to England according to him. Things like "They will have time and a place to come through and be ready to play for English clubs and then be ready to get game time. " and "Hopefully this new desire to improve the development of young footballers in Ireland will also help those who don't make it."

    Also, talk of the FAI 'taking guidance from English academies' is total nonsense. Why would Ruud Dokter follow a failed English example when the continental academies have been far more successful over the past twenty to thirty years?

    He said himself, he was impressed by the standard of football and how the players were being taught to play when he watched Waterford play Cork in an under-15 game. I can't understand why the focus cannot be on the underage game in Ireland without some mention of England and sending players over there?
    I don't live in Ireland, but hopefully the coaches have the kids playing 5 a side football on small pitches??
    Hopefully? Because not so long ago I read on here that many of them didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Also, talk of the FAI 'taking guidance from English academies' is total nonsense. Why would Ruud Dokter follow a failed English example when the continental academies have been far more successful over the past twenty to thirty years?
    to be fair to hunt his point here is in relation to ensuring the kids in the Irish underage set-ups get the football / education balance correct.

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