Ahhh ..... Why no Cobh or Tralee ??????

**A face** · 26/01/2012, 7:57 PM

What gives? Seriously ..... am i missing something? Why are they not there? Teams have fallen by the wayside for a past few years, Dublin City, Sporting Fingal, Kilkenny City, and now Galway United. Cobh went as well but they are trying to get back in ..... what is going on. And its gonna be eight teams now where it could be ten .... where is the logic?

Does anyone have the answers?

**bluewhitearmy** · 26/01/2012, 7:59 PM

Originally Posted by A face

What gives? Seriously ..... am i missing something? Why are they not there? Teams have fallen by the wayside for a past few years, Dublin City, Sporting Fingal, Kilkenny City, and now Galway United. Cobh went as well but they are trying to get back in ..... what is going on. And its gonna be eight teams now where it could be ten .... where is the logic?

Does anyone have the answers?

They owed money to former players and couldnt come to an agreement.

**Dunny** · 26/01/2012, 8:04 PM

Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy

They owed money to former players and couldnt come to an agreement.

Is that both Cobh and Tralee or just Cobh?

**bluewhitearmy** · 26/01/2012, 8:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dunny

Is that both Cobh and Tralee or just Cobh?

Cobh meant to highlight them.

**Dunny** · 26/01/2012, 8:17 PM

Wonder why Tralee got refused.

Have they facilities?

**bluewhitearmy** · 26/01/2012, 8:18 PM

Originally Posted by Dunny

Wonder why Tralee got refused.

Have they facilities?

Apparently they had to prove they had the funds to make it through the season but came way short. From what i hear they were almost 80 grand short no idea how true that is like.

**oldfan** · 26/01/2012, 9:13 PM

Amazing how tough the requirements can be for a new club , yet Galway ,Cork ,Derry ...... .....
Daft having a 8 team League.

**Comic Book Guy** · 26/01/2012, 9:23 PM

To be honest I wasn't surprised by our exclusion, I was fully expecting us to be shafted, I feel really sorry for tralee though, I think they were well and truly led up the garden path, look at it this way tralee should look as though they'be had a narrow escape. I'm gutted were not in, I really miss the away trips. Once again the failures have shown that they don't give a rats ass
about local football after all they have a nice jolly to polkraine to look forward to, nothing else matters to them.
Delaney out!

**sadloserkid** · 27/01/2012, 9:43 AM

Neither Cobh or Tralee have failed to meet any criteria yet as the licenses have yet to be allocated. So it has nothing to do with money owed or ground issues or anything of the sort. Both clubs have applied for and may well be awarded First Division licenses. However the absolute cretins that are running football in this country have already decided not to admit new teams unless a vacancy arises. In short the decision has been made to progress with just twenty senior teams. If rumour is to be believed we're heading towards a 16 team premier in the next couple of seasons so another four clubs could find themselves cast adrift in that time too. Shameful, shameful stuff. This league is pathetic lads and it won't change anytime soon I'm afraid...

**nr637** · 27/01/2012, 9:55 AM

Seems things were looking good for Cobh until Ex-Players who are still owed money objected. Seems they refused a good deal, but wanted blood. But Cobh knew in advance they needed them to agree otherwise no licence could be awarded.They went to the PFA and the rest is history.
Surely though the FAI should not have let Cobh get this far along if they knew this issue remained?

**gufct** · 27/01/2012, 10:00 AM

Really hurting here lads but what was done to the other 3 clubs was worse .They were led to believe they were home and hosed only to learn on here that they were being played like us. The league has reached a new low but still clubs fight with each other rather than organising themselves into a power broker within the FAI with no strings attached to the powers that be.

**citybone** · 27/01/2012, 11:58 AM

I would prefer 2*10 team leagues rather than a 16 team league and maybe continue the A Championship on a region basis below this. This reverting back to a closed league seems like a bad idea to me. Having more than 1 division is important otherwise the club at the bottom can just tick away without any worry of relegation eg East Stirling in Scottish 3rd Division.

**bluewhitearmy** · 27/01/2012, 2:42 PM

Originally Posted by nr637

Seems things were looking good for Cobh until Ex-Players who are still owed money objected. Seems they refused a good deal, but wanted blood. But Cobh knew in advance they needed them to agree otherwise no licence could be awarded.They went to the PFA and the rest is history.
Surely though the FAI should not have let Cobh get this far along if they knew this issue remained?

Wasnt an issue until the Ex-Players objected.

**adamd164** · 27/01/2012, 3:04 PM

Even though the licenses haven't been awarded yet, from Fran Gavin's comments he seems to suggest a sort of unofficial 'assessment' of the applications of Cobh and Tralee was done and the FAI decided to go with an 8 team league on the back of that.

Begs the question, how on Earth did Salthill get a license for Drom (and Mervue for Fahy's Field) in recent seasons - when has the standard suddenly shot up to such an extent that clubs with decent potential can be refused?

It all points to a 16 team league in the near future anyway.

**passerrby** · 27/01/2012, 3:36 PM

Originally Posted by gufct

Really hurting here lads but what was done to the other 3 clubs was worse .They were led to believe they were home and hosed only to learn on here that they were being played like us. The league has reached a new low but still clubs fight with each other rather than organising themselves into a power broker within the FAI with no strings attached to the powers that be.

Clubs do not fight with each other they do in fact stab each other in the back ,and while everything is rosy in there garden they are happy to keep there mouth shut ,but when something effects them they want to know why we don't stand together.your club was a case in point

**peadar1987** · 27/01/2012, 4:06 PM

It's daft, and it really harms the development of domestic football in places like Tralee and Carlow. Sadloserkid is right, they haven't been denied licenses. If they had, on legitimate grounds, that would have been fair enough. The FAI have just decided that an 8 team division is what they want, even if everything about the applications of any new clubs is up to standard.

And the result is there are now a lot more people with a legitimate axe to grind with the league that the FAI are supposed to be trying to promote.

**A face** · 27/01/2012, 9:19 PM

Originally Posted by peadar1987

It's daft, and it really harms the development of domestic football in places like Tralee and Carlow. Sadloserkid is right, they haven't been denied licenses. If they had, on legitimate grounds, that would have been fair enough. The FAI have just decided that an 8 team division is what they want, even if everything about the applications of any new clubs is up to standard.

And the result is there are now a lot more people with a legitimate axe to grind with the league that the FAI are supposed to be trying to promote.

Well, it doesn't give the clubs a chance to fail and then resolve their issues and appeal / resubmit for the second time and possibly pass it then.

If it was a shortfall in cash for Tralee as was mentioned, then wouldn't it have been better to fail them initially, allow them the chance to raise the cash, something that is fairly do-able for an established club.

**culloty82** · 05/02/2012, 4:43 PM

Eamonn Sweeney laments the decision.

**galwayhoop** · 05/02/2012, 5:17 PM

What Sadloserkid said is right.

Neither Cobh nor Tralee have had their licenses turned down, yet.

Money or ground issues may be true but the FAI have for their own reasons just decided to leave both clubs out for apparent football reasons with Fran Gavin stating that both aren't up to scratch and would lower the standard of the league.

Perhaps their is some truth here as Salthill, despite winning their section - a feat None of the other A Championship teams replicated, have really struggled since being accepted HOWEVER you would imagine that as both Cobh and Tralee would not be in the 3 club situation that all of the Galway clubs have had for the last 2/3 years that there is more potential for these sides.

Also it really does beg the question of why the FAI bothered putting the 2 clubs through the whole process of applying for first division licenses if they were going to rule them out before the process is even complete?

Unless there is another trick up their sleeve and they are looking to shaft one of the 8 teams in licensing. Nothing can be ruled out!

**gufcfan** · 05/02/2012, 5:33 PM

Cobh and Tralee were victims of what Fran Gavin, Eamonn Naughton and the rest of the FAI have got themselves into in Galway. Nothing to do with 3 clubs in Galway either. A disgrace of an association.