Euro 2012 Qualifying Group B - General Discussion

**Junior** · 04/10/2011, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by geysir

All very fine now Junior to say that drink was involved.
But unless you use the

smiley in your post to indicate that you're under the influence, you cannot expect us later to seriously accept your mitigation.

Alas I wasnt under the influence at the time of posting but at the game in question itself! - Though I did know the result - Im just an idiot. Will you accept that mitigating factor at least?

**geysir** · 04/10/2011, 5:58 PM

Like Ronnie, I should mind my own business.

**zero** · 05/10/2011, 8:09 PM

i have a horrible fear that the slovaks will beat russia, and we'll beat andorra so head into the final game thinking we can win the group.

then we only draw against armenia and miss out even on a playoff, with both slovak and russia finishing on 20 and we on 19.

for this reason, slovaks failing to beat russia wouln't be too much of a blow.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 05/10/2011, 8:59 PM

Naw, too simple a scenario sadly. Not complicated enough for us.

**BonnieShels** · 05/10/2011, 10:17 PM

Originally Posted by zero

i have a horrible fear that the slovaks will beat russia, and we'll beat andorra so head into the final game thinking we can win the group.

then we only draw against armenia and miss out even on a playoff, with both slovak and russia finishing on 20 and we on 19.

for this reason, slovaks failing to beat russia wouln't be too much of a blow.

That nearly made me puke.

**northwestexile** · 06/10/2011, 12:19 AM

A bit off topic and slightly random but does anybody know if ESPN is showing any of the Ireland games on their Aus/NZ channel? Took a look last night and the listings said that the England game was on but delayed coverage. They having been showing the Ireland games up to now (with good old Tommy Smyth with a Y on commentary) and I just wonder because it's the bottom team are they not showing this game?

**tricky_colour** · 06/10/2011, 12:24 AM

I'd she she is halfway good looking.

Someone who would look stunning through the bottom of a pint glass.

**BonnieShels** · 06/10/2011, 8:55 AM

Yeh wha?

**AlaskaFox** · 06/10/2011, 9:27 AM

Originally Posted by BonnieShels

Yeh wha?

Think tricky meant to post on foots.ie

**shep** · 06/10/2011, 10:28 AM

Is the Slovakia v Russia game gonna be online or on T.V????

**zero** · 07/10/2011, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by shep

Is the Slovakia v Russia game gonna be online or on T.V????

in terms of online, since the sad demise of myp2p.eu, it's hard to tell. if you check back here

http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/

later it may show up. i reckon it'd be online somewhere, it's a big game.

edit: a few links here, this seems to be a replacement site for the myp2p forums:

http://forum.wiziwig.eu/threads/6134...h-October-2011

also, not sure if i'm allowed to post links here? anyone know?

**AlaskaFox** · 07/10/2011, 11:24 AM

Links have been posted countless times in the past zero. I wouldn't worry.

**rebelmusic** · 07/10/2011, 5:48 PM

livetv.ru lads...always has every game.

**Yard of Pace** · 07/10/2011, 6:05 PM

http://www.vipbox.tv/sports/football.html
is excellent too lads.

**ArdeeBhoy** · 07/10/2011, 6:29 PM

Armenia, yikes!

Can't see Slovaks beating Russia;would a draw be our 'best' result anyway?

**zero** · 07/10/2011, 9:49 PM

right then. a draw or better on tuesday and it's the playoffs again.

as things stand, we'd be seeded, as we're ahead of belgium, bosnia, estonia and montenegro in the 2nd place standings. but the likelihood is that that will change as to maintain this essentially requires the following:

belgium to win in germany on the final day (hardly) and
serbia to fail to beat slovenia away (maybe)

or one of the above, and czechs to lose second spot to the scots. which means the scots getting a better result in spain than czech's do in lithuania.

**French Toasht** · 07/10/2011, 9:51 PM

So the likely second placed teams and how they rank in the co-efficient system.

Seeds:

Croatia
Sweden
Denmark (Incidentally the best 2nd placed team will be one of these top three teams)
Serbia
Czech Republic

Unseeded:

Turkey
Ireland/Armenia (Not putting a vodoo on anything here)
Bosnia
Montenegro

Obviously this is liable to change, Estonia, Scotland Belguim, Portugal and France may find themselves in the play offs. I know its mere conjecture but out of the seeded teams Czech and Serbia look particularly attractive draws.

**zero** · 07/10/2011, 9:59 PM

Originally Posted by French Toasht

So the likely second placed teams and how they rank in the co-efficient system.

Seeds:

Croatia
Sweden
Denmark (Incidentally the best 2nd placed team will be one of these top three teams)
Serbia
Czech Republic

Unseeded:

Turkey
Ireland/Armenia (Not putting a vodoo on anything here)
Bosnia
Montenegro

Obviously this is liable to change, Estonia, Scotland Belguim, Portugal and France may find themselves in the play offs. I know its mere conjecture but out of the seeded teams Czech and Serbia look particularly attractive draws.

seems right to me. however, the uefa co-efficients work off of results in the last 3 qualifying tournaments. friendlies aren't counted. i'm not sure, but we may overtake the turks in the co-efficient since we won tonight and they lost. we shall see tomorrow i guess.

**French Toasht** · 07/10/2011, 9:59 PM

In order to finish as a seeded team:

We need Sebia to draw or lose away to Slovenia. (Thus Estonia get second)

And

Scotland to beat Liectenstein.

Scotland win against Spain.

More likely though hope Lithuania beat Czech at home.

**French Toasht** · 07/10/2011, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by zero

seems right to me. however, the uefa co-efficients work off of results in the last 3 qualifying tournaments. friendlies aren't counted. i'm not sure, but we may overtake the turks in the co-efficient since we won tonight and they lost. we shall see tomorrow i guess.

This is the latest co-efficient table:

http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/...1_DOWNLOAD.pdf

Yes if we jump above Turkey its likely we'd still be unseeded, but if either Estonia or Scotland can slip in we'll get seeded. If only Estonia had not lost to the Faroes, we'd probably have just snook in.