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    Naming football clubs

    If a club goes bust, who owns the name? Could another club start up and call themselves, say, Cork Hibernians if they wanted to? Or do you have to buy it off the people who held it originally?

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    Thats the million dollar question in the real capital
    The SFAI are the governing body for grassroots football in Ireland, not the FAI. Its success or the lack of is all down to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peadar1987 View Post
    If a club goes bust, who owns the name? Could another club start up and call themselves, say, Cork Hibernians if they wanted to? Or do you have to buy it off the people who held it originally?
    If the holding company is liquidated and the trading name of the club is owned by that company then you could try to buy it from the liquidator (court appointed). If no-ond buys the name and thecompany ceases to exist, you could start using the name and apply to the CRO to register.

    I think.
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    And if the team is long defunct, like Belfast Celtic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by punkrocket View Post
    And if the team is long defunct, like Belfast Celtic?
    Different story - as Belfast Celtic's name is owned by a Bookmaker.

    Most Irish clubs don't have their names registered as trademarks, so most have no ongoing value. If a company trading as a certain football club goes bang, eventually that name becomes freely available again to re-register as a trading name.

    Henec why City came back from the dead (both Derry and Cork).

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    What about the Limerick situation where they changed from 37 back to just f.c ?

    Because F.C went bust..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddickcule View Post
    What about the Limerick situation where they changed from 37 back to just f.c ?

    Because F.C went bust..
    Answered in my post above.

    I do hope we're not going to have to go through the 'what about x club' thing with every other example of this in Irish football

    I'm going to name an LOI club 'Derek'. After my dear deceased grandmother....

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    Answered in my post above.

    I do hope we're not going to have to go through the 'what about x club' thing with every other example of this in Irish football

    I'm going to name an LOI club 'Derek'. After my dear deceased grandmother....
    Arrogance is never lost on ya Steve. I don't think he suggested 'we' need to go through a 'what about x club' 'thing'. Just merely stated an example of what is possible hence Limerick 37 becoming Limerick FC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riddickcule View Post
    What about the Limerick situation where they changed from 37 back to just f.c ?

    Because F.C went bust..
    No they didn't.

    They were in the hands of FAI enemy (and sporadic benefactor to about a quarter of the clubs to have played league football in recent times) Danny Drew and accordingly were not issued with a license.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    Henec why City came back from the dead (both Derry and Cork).
    The trading names Cork City FC and Cork City Football Club are registered by Cork City Investments FC ltd., and have been since that company came into being in the Lennox era. During examinership last year the company was maintained and never went out of existence to come 'back from the dead'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sadloserkid View Post
    No they didn't.

    They were in the hands of FAI enemy (and sporadic benefactor to about a quarter of the clubs to have played league football in recent times) Danny Drew and accordingly were not issued with a license.
    Apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harpsbear View Post
    Arrogance is never lost on ya Steve. I don't think he suggested 'we' need to go through a 'what about x club' 'thing'. Just merely stated an example of what is possible hence Limerick 37 becoming Limerick FC.

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    Though it seems elementary reading is lost on you...

    He wasn't giivng an example - he clearly asked a question. Hence I stated that there would be no point going through the same answer for every one of the LOI cluhs that have fecked around with names.

    As your Spanish cousin would say, "finito de".

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiktok View Post
    The trading names Cork City FC and Cork City Football Club are registered by Cork City Investments FC ltd., and have been since that company came into being in the Lennox era. During examinership last year the company was maintained and never went out of existence to come 'back from the dead'.
    I was referring to the fact that Cork City played in the LOi in season 1938/9.

    Hence in 1984 the name was indeed brought 'back from the dead'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcfcsteve View Post
    I was referring to the fact that Cork City played in the LOi in season 1938/9.

    Hence in 1984 the name was indeed brought 'back from the dead'.
    Apologies Steve, of course we were also brought back from liquidation in the 90's.
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    In fairness Steve I think its changed a lot recently, and I'd imagine that most clubs (and the companies behind them) own the rights to the name etc (as tiktok's post above)

    You're obviously right about clubs in the past not bothering
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