The Title Decider Friday Oct 2nd

**SkStu** · 06/10/2009, 1:44 AM

Originally Posted by Sheridan

Here it is, incontrovertibly. Didn't hear it first time round. Despicable.

holy crap - i was prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to them on this one but that is pretty blatant. And there was the song they sang about his parents the last time in dalymount which was brushed off as "just a joke" and no big deal. No doubt they will be defended on here again by the usual sympathisers. Is the above video from sheridan not evidence enough?

**brianw82** · 06/10/2009, 7:09 AM

Originally Posted by SkStu

holy crap - i was prepared to give the benefit of the doubt to them on this one but that is pretty blatant. And there was the song they sang about his parents the last time in dalymount which was brushed off as "just a joke" and no big deal. No doubt they will be defended on here again by the usual sympathisers. Is the above video from sheridan not evidence enough?

Utterly disgraceful. Is someone going to send that to the FAI? Will Shamrock Rovers be heavily fined or forced to play a match behind closed doors for racist chanting?
I'd put the house on it that the answer to that is 'no.'

**BohsPartisan** · 06/10/2009, 7:47 AM

I got abused for making a similar claim a couple of years ago on here (that time the chants were in relation to Mansaram) but I couldn't "prove" it because the video that I was shown was not in the public domain and the owner of the video wouldn't bring it public. Then we had the Elephant washing song earlier this season directed at Ndo. This has to stop. The FAI needs to take action.

**CMcC** · 06/10/2009, 10:03 AM

So on Friday on live TV in what was the biggest domestic game in recent years we have had Shamrock Rovers supporters:

1. Throw a missile and hit a linesman
2. Light flares in the stand
3. Enter the field of play
4. Quite clearly racially abuse an opposition player.

And we wonder why our league is so badly supported.

What do we think would be the punishment in most leagues for the above?

I would guess in England or Scotland a club would certainly be in the dock looking at a substiantial fine and possibly a behind closed doors punishment.

What steps have the club themselves taken I wonder? Have they released a statement at all commenting on these issues and the corrective proceedures they intend to put in place to avoid a repeat?

I expect the FAI to ignore the flares, pitch invasion and racist abuse. They will have to be seen to act on the linesman as this was caught on live TV. So €500 fine.

Most associations would be livid - trying to promote the game and that happens - but not the FAI, especially it seems when Rovers are concerned.

**placid casual** · 06/10/2009, 10:20 AM

Racism has no place in League of Ireland football.
Whether it be on the terraces, or on the pitch(J McGuinness) it should not be tolerated.
No decent person would disagree with that i'm sure.

**mypost** · 06/10/2009, 8:07 PM

Originally Posted by CMcC

I expect the FAI to ignore the flares, pitch invasion and racist abuse. They will have to be seen to act on the linesman as this was caught on live TV. So €500 fine.

Good to see Sheridan's doing his bit to harm the league's image and keep crowds at Home Farm levels.

There were 6,000 people there last Friday. 1 threw a bottle, about 5 lit flares, a number of people celebrated our winner on the sideline. They didn't get onto the pitch. Lets put things into perspective.

The club will be punished for any wrongdoing. However, that shouldn't take away from the spectacle provided and promotion of the LOI last Friday. If people want to watch a game with no crowd, no atmosphere, nothing at stake, and no passion, then there are hundreds of such places around the country both inside and outside the league.

**osborne** · 06/10/2009, 8:52 PM

Originally Posted by placid casual

Racism has no place in League of Ireland football.
Whether it be on the terraces, or on the pitch(J McGuinness) it should not be tolerated.
No decent person would disagree with that i'm sure.

Agree 100%.

Rovers should do everything in their power to ensure this is not repeated.

Equally, Bohs need to address the sectarian chants directed at Alan Mannus by sections of their support last Friday

**Quadruple1928** · 06/10/2009, 9:02 PM

Originally Posted by osborne

Agree 100%.

Rovers should do everything in their power to ensure this is not repeated.

Equally, Bohs need to address the sectarian chants directed at Alan Mannus by sections of their support last Friday

I take you were not at the game? Loads of rovers fans were singing something about " orange *******s", was it about Mannus? O'Neill?? Twigg?? Or who? If you actually watch the tg4 stream you can hear it loud and clear! Maybe they are the sectarian chants you heard...

**mypost** · 06/10/2009, 9:10 PM

Originally Posted by Quadruple1928

I take you were not at the game? Loads of rovers fans were singing something about " oragne *******s", was it about Mannus? O'Neill?? Twigg?? Or who? If you actually watch the tg4 strem you can hear it loud and clear!

The opposition on Friday. It's sung repeatedly at all our games, but was never an issue before.

**Quadruple1928** · 06/10/2009, 9:18 PM

Originally Posted by mypost

The opposition on Friday. It's sung repeatedly at all our games, but was never an issue before.

Dont know why you would sing it but i'm not making an issue out of it. osborne, said something about sectarian abuse so i think that was what he was getting at.

**osborne** · 06/10/2009, 9:20 PM

Originally Posted by Quadruple1928

I take you were not at the game? Loads of rovers fans were singing something about " orange *******s", was it about Mannus? O'Neill?? Twigg?? Or who? If you actually watch the tg4 stream you can hear it loud and clear! Maybe they are the sectarian chants you heard...

As I said, I was referring to the chants directed at Alan Mannus when he ventured near the Bohs supporters to collect the ball.

**Quadruple1928** · 06/10/2009, 9:37 PM

Originally Posted by osborne

As I said, I was referring to the chants directed at Alan Mannus when he ventured near the Bohs supporters to collect the ball.

Your fishing.! I have read some of your other posts, your a rovers fan.

**osborne** · 06/10/2009, 9:48 PM

Rovers supporters referring to Bohs as "orange b*s***ds" can be described as infantile, ignorant or even pathetic; but certainly not sectarian.

The chants of "you dirty orange b*st**d" aimed directly at Alan Mannus by sections of the Bohs support (Lee Feeney was subjected to same in Dalymount in 2005) is, to my mind, as reprehensible as the monkey noises aimed at Joseph Ndo.

**Schumi** · 06/10/2009, 9:51 PM

Originally Posted by osborne

The chants of "you dirty orange b*st**d" aimed directly at Alan Mannus by sections of the Bohs support (Lee Feeney was subjected to same in Dalymount in 2005) is, to my mind, as reprehensible as the monkey noises aimed at Joseph Ndo.

Didn't Mannus get the same from his own fans in his first game?

**Acornvilla** · 06/10/2009, 9:55 PM

Didn't Mannus get the same from his own fans in his first game?

that does not make it any more acceptable now? regardles of which set of 'fans' sing it

**Quadruple1928** · 06/10/2009, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by osborne

Rovers supporters referring to Bohs as "orange b*s***ds" can be described as infantile, ignorant or even pathetic; but certainly not sectarian..

rovers fans calling others "orange *******s" is not sectarian but when someone else sings it allegedly, it becomes sectarian

**MariborKev** · 06/10/2009, 10:07 PM

Lads,

If this is going to turn into another petty "Bohs sang this, Rovers sang that" merlarkey it will be locked.

**Quadruple1928** · 06/10/2009, 10:11 PM

Originally Posted by MariborKev

Lads,

If this is going to turn into another petty "Bohs sang this, Rovers sang that" merlarkey it will be locked.

You can hear monkey chants, well the rovers "fan" looks tobe making up things to get away from the point. I'll leave at this anyway hopefully the FAI act on the racists.

**blue til i die** · 06/10/2009, 10:31 PM

First time in Tallaght stadium last friday, very impressive. Although the match itself wasnt the best, seeing 6000 people at a loi match was brilliant. Well done to rovers, long may it continue.

**BohsPartisan** · 06/10/2009, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by osborne

Rovers supporters referring to Bohs as "orange b*s***ds" can be described as infantile, ignorant or even pathetic; but certainly not sectarian.

The chants of "you dirty orange b*st**d" aimed directly at Alan Mannus by sections of the Bohs support (Lee Feeney was subjected to same in Dalymount in 2005) is, to my mind, as reprehensible as the monkey noises aimed at Joseph Ndo.

This is classic diversion tactics. I agree 100% with placid casual who as far as I know is a Rovers fan. There is no place for racism at games from the crowd or on the pitch. J McGuinness was punished justifiably for what he did and Rovers need to sort out anyone involved in racist chanting. Its happened a few times now and somebody must know who's doing it. This is not a Bohs V Rovers thing. Its an anti-racist thing and I'm sure most rovers fans would feel the same way. Speak out and stop it.