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    Question The Title Decider Friday Oct 2nd

    I think it will be a very tight affair between two very closely matched teams, i think a draw will be the probable result, as neither will want to lose it. I think Fenlon probably is the sharper manager, who has seen it all before, i think too that Shams manager Michael O'Neil showed like he was feeling the pressure a bit recently in the paper and on tv, you know you're in trouble when you praise the ref as much as praising your own players after a game. Anyway i hope it's a good match and the best team wins and just for once no dodgy decisions by the ref, but i think maybe just maybe if there is to be a winner on the night, along side domestic football, it's more likely Bohs, but still going for a draw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac View Post
    I think it will be a very tight affair between two very closely matched teams, i think a draw will be the probable result, as neither will want to lose it. I think Fenlon probably is the sharper manager, who has seen it all before, i think too that Shams manager Michael O'Neil showed like he was feeling the pressure a bit recently in the paper and on tv, you know you're in trouble when you praise the ref as much as praising your own players after a game. Anyway i hope it's a good match and the best team wins and just for once no dodgy decisions by the ref, but i think maybe just maybe if there is to be a winner on the night, along side domestic football, it's more likely Bohs, but still going for a draw.
    Rovers won, Sligo lost. Get over it ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac View Post
    I think it will be a very tight affair between two very closely matched teams, i think a draw will be the probable result, as neither will want to lose it. I think Fenlon probably is the sharper manager, who has seen it all before, i think too that Shams manager Michael O'Neil showed like he was feeling the pressure a bit recently in the paper and on tv, you know you're in trouble when you praise the ref as much as praising your own players after a game. Anyway i hope it's a good match and the best team wins and just for once no dodgy decisions by the ref, but i think maybe just maybe if there is to be a winner on the night, along side domestic football, it's more likely Bohs, but still going for a draw.
    Up the Bohs!
    I have no time for O'Neill after the comments he made after their win in the Showgrounds. Bohs play a much nicer brand of football as well.
    Bit premature calling it the "Title Decider" Maniac. Still a lot of points to play for after that game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eelmonster View Post
    Rovers won, Sligo lost. Get over it ffs.
    In fairness to the Maniac, we have been bet up and down the country this season so we have plenty of practice getting over defeats!

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    Brennan's suspended. Huge game for Shams and the FAI. Twigg penalty is a given, so Bohs will have to score at least twice. Don't think they'll do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eelmonster View Post
    Rovers won, Sligo lost. Get over it ffs.
    Not having a go at all at Shams, far from it as dong says we have been beaten 15 times this season i have seen 14 of them i am will used to watching us get beaten , although never nice when your football team loses.

    Just give your opinion on the game on Friday if you have one, probably the biggest game the league has seen since Cork v Derry in 2005 and i am really looking forward to the match.

    To be fair to Fenlon had all the pressure on him for a few weeks, after getting beat by us twice and Bray once while all the time Shams kept winning, i thought he kept his head fairly well and did think O'Neill was showing signs of distress of late without having any real cause to.

    It will be interesting the number of TV viewers for this game compared to the Cork v Derry game from few years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac
    think O'Neill was showing signs of distress of late without having any real cause to.
    He doesn't have any cause to. He's 19 games unbeaten. Some distress.
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    Cost of Tallaght Stadium: €11.2m; Shams debt written off by Revenue: €1m+.; Cost of keeping Tallaght Hospital open: €12m. SRFC - The Community Club.
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    • Shams debt written off by Revenue €1M+. So what, that's the way the cookie crumbles. You're not honestly suggesting that money that Rovers didn't have could have been used to fund a hospital are you? If we're down to funding hospitals from LOI tax bills, I think we should pack up and leave the country.
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    Hope they both lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rerun View Post
    Dude, have to call you out on your sig.
    • Firstly, Tallaght Stadium is funded by SDCC, they have nothing to do with hospitals, their concern is providing services and facilities for the population in their local authority catchment area.

    How are Dublin City doing these days?
    So in your view a hospital isn't a "service or facility for the population in their local authority catchment area"???!!!!
    It may come under the portfolio of the HSE but it is a public, not a private hospital and is paid for by you and me (well maybe not you considering you live in the UK) through taxes we pay to the Government.
    The rest of his sig is a bit ridiculous though, I must admit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rovers Maniac View Post
    Not having a go at all at Shams, far from it as dong says we have been beaten 15 times this season i have seen 14 of them i am will used to watching us get beaten , although never nice when your football team loses.

    Just give your opinion on the game on Friday if you have one, probably the biggest game the league has seen since Cork v Derry in 2005 and i am really looking forward to the match.

    It will be interesting the number of TV viewers for this game compared to the Cork v Derry game from few years ago.
    50% of your original post was a dig at Rovers. Sure it's a big game, but the result is really of little consequence to me; however, three seasons ago Rovers were in the First Division, they are now challenging for the league -- I'd like to see Dundalk follow a similar trajectory -- and they're the underdogs, take from that what you will. Unfortunately, I won't be tuning in for the biggest league game since 2005, I'll be at United Park .

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    He doesn't have any cause to. He's 19 games unbeaten. Some distress.
    My profession currently resolves around Psychiatric assessments, which i carry out an indivduals for companies and organisations, so i think i know what i am speaking about. I agree with you mypost he has no reason to be, but one thing for sure the next few weeks will be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheridan View Post
    Brennan's suspended. Huge game for Shams and the FAI. Twigg penalty is a given, so Bohs will have to score at least twice. Don't think they'll do it.
    Most of that is spot on. Brennan's return to form has been key in the Bohs revival. He's suspended and FAI are doing a job on Deegan too, their fiendish scheduling plot having come undone. Imagine the consternation of John Delaney and Monday Night Shamrock if Bohs pull it off in Tallaght.
    Everyone hates Bohs. All are praying for a hoopish win. Refs are human. We'll get nothing. But we can still do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BohDiddley View Post
    Everyone hates Bohs. All are praying for a hoopish win. Refs are human. We'll get nothing. But we can still do it.
    I'll shout for ye if you like, although I couldn't care less who wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rerun View Post
    Dude, have to call you out on your sig.
    In fairness the dote had to come up with something after his previous signature. Go easy on the poor thing

    It's only a title decider if Bohs win. I think a lot of people particularly fans on either side are forgetting the usual TV big LOI game tendency for a 0-0 draw keeping the meagre one point status quo.
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    Regardless of how people want to build-up the game, its most certainly not a title decider.

    The losing club may well go on the win the league. Both clubs have too many difficult games between now and the end of the season to give Friday's important game the billing of Title Decider.
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    Friday's game is a title decider if Bohs win it. A Rovers win keeps it alive, a draw and Bohs are still heavy favourites. An interesting side show in all of this is the two clubs are polar opposites of each other of how things should be run. Last week we had Fenlon and Conway in the papers saying full time was the way forward and Bohs would would still have a full time squad next year. Today we have O'Neill and Roche in the paper stating the complete opposite

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...e-1901093.html

    Last week, Gypsies boss Pat Fenlon indicated that the money men at Dalymount Park have promised a budget which will maintain a full-time set-up next year.

    However, Rovers will persist as they stand right now. At present, 30pc of their playing staff have jobs outside football, but O'Neill attributes that to the current economic climate rather than anything else.

    The former Northern Ireland international -- a qualified financial advisor, who worked with Ernst & Young and started his own mortgage company in between the end of his playing career and entering management -- insists that his current employers have to be patient rather than making a jump too quickly.

    "I don't believe it's sustainable (full- time) in this current climate," he says. "People will argue that essentially we are full-time. I can assure you we are not. We're going training at 5.30pm (last night) so we have to focus on the lads who are at work, to get them out early.

    "At this moment in time, I'm not convinced the clubs can commit to full-time football in my view of what full-time football is, having experienced it in England and Scotland.

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    "We have the players together essentially from about 5.0 to 7.30 every day. Full-time football for me would be having the players in at 9.30 and in until 3.30 or 4.0 on certain days. Now, we have very little time to do video analysis, all of those things you would do if you were in a full-time structure.

    "I think the model we have here is the model which suits the league at this minute in time. Going full-time for a year and continually being under threat financially isn't really going full-time to be honest. It has to be done with a realistic five- to 10-year plan which you know is sustainable."

    Rovers chairman Jonathan Roche is singing off the same hymn sheet. With their current operation, the Hoops have an annual turnover which he estimates to be in the region of €1.3m with a 10pc increase expected in 2010.

    "I think it would have to be a long-term thing," he says of professionalism. "I think we'd be mad to jump into a full-time situation next year.

    "We'd have to plan properly to make sure that the football club would get the full benefit of having a full-time squad and everything that comes from that. We'd be of the same mind that we build and we review the structure of the football club on an ongoing basis, so we can change that if circumstances change. But at the moment we're quite happy with where we're going."

    So much for the people on here saying Rovers would spend like drunken sailors and end up in trouble again.
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    Very refreshing to hear comments like that from Rovers in fairness. Nice to see some level of realism in the league for once.
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    No way is this a title decider, there are far too many games left for it to even be considered as much.

    Biggest game of the year ? Most definitely. Personally speaking, I think it will end in a draw.

    Looking at the last 2 games for each I would have said maybe Bohs have an easier run, as according to 11 a side.com, they have 2 games and Rovers only have one.

    Poor Sligo have been asked to play twice on the same night, so maybe a chance for Bohs to get an extra 3 pts here


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