Another Full House At Tallaght

**OneRedArmy** · 28/09/2009, 9:30 AM

Originally Posted by Dixie Dean

The above statement personifies the typical LOI supporter. Good aul negativity.

Shams are traditonally well supported and there is no reason why they cannot maintain or even increase their support into the future. They have thrown down the gauntlet to the rest of us and as a supporter owned club fair play to them. Statements like the above show they will bring existing LOI fans kicking and screaming to progress.

Its true though!

Hopefully they can maintain the crowds, but NOBODY in the League has ever managed to sustain high crowds and almost every club has had them at some stage in their history.

What Rovers is doing now is good for the League (a well run club competing for trophies) but they need to change history and cultural psyches in order to make it last.

**CuanaD** · 28/09/2009, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by Derry

It's good to see a club get good support. However there are extenuating circumstances that may be the cause of the big support, ie new stands, new club to the area and you doing well. Soon the new stands and being new to the area will be a thing of the past, then you'll have to really work to sustain your crowds. Which i hope you do, as there's nothing better than a well filled ground.

Which is why I hope SR don't win the league this year - too much too soon will leave the new fans expecting to win everything all the time & they can get disillusioned very quickly with a few bad results.
On the other hand - a good second place finish this year, European football & the chance to go one better next year - gives the anticipation that keeps people coming back.
& if Rovers could then win the league NEXT year - all those new fans will have 18+ months under their belts - there's no going back at that stage, they'll be SR & LOI for life

**CuanaD** · 28/09/2009, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by tipptops

Negativity or Realism?

The LOI is currently living in cloud cuckoo land in financial terms. It is as obvious as the nose on your face that full-time soccer will never prosper in Ireland. Perhaps it will take the disintegration of one of the bigger clubs for some people to realise this. Its totally mad the way lads are pointing to Rovers and saying how great they are and there is no reason they can't go on to achieve x,y and z. Lets not forget its only a matter of months since they paid off 4c in the euro off their debts.

Just had a look at your 'last 10 posts'
You are a real UP person, aren't you?

(although I somehow found myself agreeing with your comments about Greens/FF

)

**Dixie Dean** · 28/09/2009, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by tipptops

Negativity or Realism?

The LOI is currently living in cloud cuckoo land in financial terms. It is as obvious as the nose on your face that full-time soccer will never prosper in Ireland. Perhaps it will take the disintegration of one of the bigger clubs for some people to realise this. Its totally mad the way lads are pointing to Rovers and saying how great they are and there is no reason they can't go on to achieve x,y and z. Lets not forget its only a matter of months since they paid off 4c in the euro off their debts.

For me its negativity. Shams have 2500 season ticket holders with projections of 3000 next year. A good manager, a good brand, stadium and location. I admit i am an optimist and my view (despite the problems of some clubs, note not all) a break through in europe will happen eventually and that will hopefully at a minimum maintain the interest if not kick it on.

If we are to be negative all the time , whats the point?

Part of attracting more crowds to LOI is the current fans selling it to friends/family etc. Who is going to go to a LOI game as a first timer based on all the negative comments on this forum?

**CJTheGull** · 28/09/2009, 1:33 PM

Originally Posted by eamo1

Is the game live on TG4 or any channel?It doesnt matter to me as ill be in Terryland Park but would be great for the league for a full house top of the table clash derby game to be seen by the country.

Yeah the game is live on 'Sacar Beo' @ 7:30pm Friday night.

**osarusan** · 28/09/2009, 1:41 PM

I think the crowds currently going to Tallaght are fantastic, and there is no doubt that good facilities, atmosphere and results will keep people coming back.

But the fact that there is an element of novelty involved (which will obviously wear off at some stage) must be considered, and Shamrock Rovers would be foolish not to realise it. However, I am sure they have considered it, and will keep looking for ways to attract new fans and keep as many fans as possible.

The wearing off of the novelty factor need not impact on attendances if other efforts to attract and keep fans are successful enough.

**MariborKev** · 28/09/2009, 2:05 PM

Originally Posted by CuanaD

Which is why I hope SR don't win the league this year - too much too soon will leave the new fans expecting to win everything all the time & they can get disillusioned very quickly with a few bad results.
On the other hand - a good second place finish this year, European football & the chance to go one better next year - gives the anticipation that keeps people coming back.

I'd agree with that sentiment.

**pineapple stu** · 28/09/2009, 3:42 PM

There's more to the mascot price than that, as has already been posted here. (It may or mayn't be worth it, but it's not as stingy as you make out)

You've started off by posting a lot of unfounded rumours or nonsense posts like that one. How's about a sensible contribution for a change?

**Acornvilla** · 28/09/2009, 3:53 PM

someone sounds jealous/bitter!

**pineapple stu** · 28/09/2009, 3:54 PM

Half the rest of the league has done the same thing. At least Rovers have learnt from it, and have built the fanbase they have through proper marketing and hard work.

Anyone who has a problem with that has a serious chip on their shoulder.

**Buller** · 28/09/2009, 6:18 PM

Originally Posted by tipptops

A sensible contribution?

There are lads on here saying how great it is that Rovers are getting big crowds and are top of the League. How did they do it? By not paying their debts...4c for every euro they owed is what they paid and now lads want to clap them on the back because 18 months later they are surviving without passing around the begging bowl...it is a disgrace.

Whats to stop the rest of the clubs doing the same thing?

Are you perhaps the GAA foot.ie undercover operative by any chance?

**fergalr** · 28/09/2009, 9:09 PM

Originally Posted by tipptops

Whats to stop the rest of the clubs doing the same thing?

Yeah - what's to stop the rest of the clubs getting a 6,000 sell out?

**Dixie Dean** · 28/09/2009, 9:21 PM

Originally Posted by tipptops

I presume you mean Rovers selling it to young kids for €175 a pop just to be the mascot and get a pair of socks and togs.....Rubbish.

I think that sack of spuds on your shoulder is weighing you down.

**dfx-** · 28/09/2009, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by joey4ireland

Worst boycott ever

Please post all issues on the failure to cleanse foot.ie of Rovers fans on Sheridan's visitor page.

**SkStu** · 29/09/2009, 1:16 AM

Originally Posted by joey4ireland

Worst boycott ever

oi! thats my line Langer!

**peadar1987** · 29/09/2009, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by tipptops

Ah shure it will be even better for SDCC next year when Shels move in. It will be great, a "home" for Shels after all these months.

So where are you coming from? What club do you support? Do you have a degree in economics or marketing? Or are you just an angry 14 year old who was bullied by a LOI supporter?

**Drogman.** · 29/09/2009, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by tipptops

Ah shure it will be even better for SDCC next year when Shels move in. It will be great, a "home" for Shels after all these months.

Haha some man! Seeing as you keep banging on about this 4c in the the Euro, then you must have been affected by it?

A lot of people are talking about waiting for the novelty factor to wear off with Tallaght. I don't think it'll wear off as quickly as it has with other clubs, for the fact that the matchday experience (Am takling personally here from visiting the stadium) is much better than what is offered in any other ground in the league. The buzz around the ground and in the hotel bar before the games we've played Rovers in were electric and you had the sense that this wasn't the normal, run of the mill LOI game.

I've no love of Rovers, but I have to put my hands up and say that what's being done in Tallaght is fantastic. And it makes me laugh so much when I read the bitter/jealous comments from the majority of Bohs fans on their forum about how their rivals are getting on.

If they spent half of time trying to sort out their own club rather than looking for another bitter swipe at Rovers then they probably would be in a better financial shape at the moment.

**eelmonster** · 29/09/2009, 11:29 AM

They don't know anything about LoI 'soccer' where he's from, 25 years is a long time on the mountain. Still, let him shake his stick, it's a bit of fun.

**pineapple stu** · 29/09/2009, 12:07 PM

The ground was built by the SDCC. The club such as it is at the moment - in particular, the sell-out crowds - was built by Rovers' fans.

LOL at the notion that you're trying to give Bohs moral superiority because Rovers sold their ground and squandered the proceeds whereas Bohs didn't.

**fergalr** · 29/09/2009, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by tipptops

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Utter drivel. I have seen so many inaccuracies crammed into a single post.

I see you are new to this forum so you may not be aware that you're rehashing issues that have been debated and discussed in depth alreeady. I suggest you spend a couple of hours looking back over some previous threads to get yourself up to speed.

Oh ... and any update on your "rock the LOI" news?
http://foot.ie/forums/showpost.php?p...&postcount=113