Perhaps embolding and underlining the word "MAY" did not make it clear enough ! At the moment Bohs are hopefull they will be compliant with the 65% rule but will not know for sure until the last month or so (variables such as crowds and fundraising will all play a part).Originally Posted by tallaghtfornia
Cannot understand why people on here have a problem with Bohs fund raising initiatives ????????? like it never happened at any other club (at least we are not looking for an FAI bailout or someone to build a ground for us)
Nobody at Dalymount believes the problems at Bohs have gone away but progress has been made whether it will be enough or not remains to be seen.
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Regardless of what the FAI do about Bohs it will be vital that the real fans continue to raise cash for the struggle ahead .Ive had a cheap laugh at the Logan thing myself but I have nothing but admiration for fans who give up there time and effort to raise money to save any league of Ireland club.I hate seeing the money that gets raised handed over to clowns though!
There are two very seperate and distinct parts to the situation at Dalymount
firstly the issue of 65% payroll which is a short term issue (with potential long term impact) and dealing with that requires us to match income and expenditure in accordance with the rule (65%) this season.
The second issue, and a longer term issue is dealing with the club debt and more importantly stopping it increasing. this will have to be addressed over a number of years (more realistic wage budgets etc) and the new Board have started the process already - it is widely known that the budget for next season will be cut dramatically.
To be fair Johnny Logan (who has been "adopted" by the bohs fans) has agreed to perform a concert in an effort to raise money to assist the club. An admirable offer by him and I am not sure what is funny in that but glad it gave you a laugh.Imagine, somebody trying to do something positive for the LOI!
You nexpecting much of a crowd to turn out for a Johnny Logan concert ?To be fair Johnny Logan (who has been "adopted" by the bohs fans) has agreed to perform a concert in an effort to raise money to assist the club. An admirable offer by him and I am not sure what is funny in that but glad it gave you a laugh.Imagine, somebody trying to do something positive for the LOI
Will it be held at Croker, the Point Depot or a phone box...?
........Dalymount actually, I have no idea how many will attend the event. Tickets are already on sale for anyone interested. there are other acts on the bill as well so given your obvious interest feel free to contact the clubYou nexpecting much of a crowd to turn out for a Johnny Logan concert ?
Will it be held at Croker, the Point Depot or a phone box...?
Barstoolers don't support - they follow. There's a very big difference.
Ironically, English football isn't in much better shape than the Irish game. It's just that the glaring headlights of the Premiersh!t blind barstooling idiots about what is actually happening in the divisions below it. A significant proportion of clubs in the lower leagues in England have been in administration. And there have been savage points deduction handed-out all over the place in recent years as penalties. Just look at where Chester are in the table at the moment, or Luton and Bournemouth at the start of last season. Scotland isn't immune either : Livingstone this year, Gretna last year.
Ireland hasn't caught a strange dysfunctional footballing bug that doesn't exist anywhere else in the world. The intoxicating 'dream' affects all football leagues. Admittedly - propping-up a bar stool supporting a premiersh!t team bankrolled by a foreign billionaire, it's probably hard to appreciate that...
I wouldn't call your crowds a variable. 700 - 800 paying fans when you take out season ticket holders and youngsters.
Same for every game although you'll get a lot more for a game against the Hoops.
Didn't know where else to put this but here's a charming little article from the Independent's residant half-wit:
Irish will always be drawn to fields of Anfield Road
Where's the sick bucket?No matter, 'The Irish Kop' is beautiful in the innocence of what it transmits: love of a team without the logic of a geographical imperative.
Ah, but you forget, there is no LOI team actually in Nenagh, you'd have to drive 40 minutes in to Limerick! And why would someone from Nenagh support Limerick anyway? It's not like they're from Limerick.
You gotta love the stockbarstooler excuse of "The nearest LOI ground is a 5 minute walk away, so why would I go there when it's only a 2 minute walk to the pub?"
Possible cup semi final, where membership/seasons ticket don`t apply. Might not be a possibility after tonight! A down -to the wire league head to head with Rovers is also likely to increase crowds , then again it might decrease crowds , who knows, it`s a variable!!!
I`m not sure where you are getting the 800 paying fans per game, 500 max members per game I would think, on average, leaving 1,000 freebies? (presumably kids, Referees Assessors , Trappatonis entourage and Bertie) ,speculate away!!
What is clear is that if we don`t win the league it will be a miracle if we are under the 65%. In any event we will be making a loss this year as will every other top-flight club, including the Hoops ,unless they win a major Trophy for the first time in a generation. 100k p.a. for ground rental to SDCC has been a bit of a shocker for them given that they were led to believe they would be paying a peppercorn rent.
God knows what the reaction of the FAI will be (would much prefer not to find outPossible cup semi final, where membership/seasons ticket don`t apply. Might not be a possibility after tonight! A down -to the wire league head to head with Rovers is also likely to increase crowds , then again it might decrease crowds , who knows, it`s a variable!!!
I`m not sure where you are getting the 800 paying fans per game, 500 max members per game I would think, on average, leaving 1,000 freebies? (presumably kids, Referees Assessors , Trappatonis entourage and Bertie) ,speculate away!!
What is clear is that if we don`t win the league it will be a miracle if we are under the 65%. In any event we will be making a loss this year as will every other top-flight club, including the Hoops ,unless they win a major Trophy for the first time in a generation. 100k p.a. for ground rental to SDCC has been a bit of a shocker for them given that they were led to believe they would be paying a peppercorn rent.). With them baling out Cork City and allowing Dundalk sign half a team two/three weeks before they renege on players contracts (some very open minded bean counting in HQ ?) I would not be surprised to see another dollop of fudge.
Just hope to God we are not depending on it.
What would happen if two or three teams fell outside the 65% ?
Heard that alright , any money from a cup run is profit , the sanctions at the beginning of the season have helped with the finances but given our reduced budget and a seriuous run of injuries we were struggling with a tiny squad till the transfer window opened and were able to bring it 7 players but will probably have to go though the playoffs to stay up now.
What annoys me is that some clubs are allowed to overspend and then slam on the brakes once enough points are on the board to avoid relegation, I genuinely can't see the FAI hitting clubs over budgets this seaosn as they approved the things in the first place and will probably just roll out the R word as an excuse with a promise to do things better next year.
63.00
I'd say the same as last year.
No, no, no. This year they really mean it.
And next year they'll really, really mean it.
Unfortunately you could drive a bus through the holes in licensing.
#NeverStopNotGivingUp
As a matter of interest do loans from Frank And Irene count as income for the purpose of calculating 65% limit (if rumour is true are they not paid as prize money - just not earned yet) ?
All Bohs need to do is get some up front prize money (until about 2020 should do nicely) and problem solvedThe FAI, whoops, I mean that nice man and woman down the street save the day.
The FAI have no role in allowing/disallowing signings, unless of course a transfer embargo is in place.God knows what the reaction of the FAI will be (would much prefer not to find out
Just hope to God we are not depending on it.
What would happen if two or three teams fell outside the 65% ?
While I have major reservations about the transfer window signings at Dundalk in the light of the subsequent pay cuts, it should be noted that there were six July signings set against eight departures since the start of the season. The pays cuts were voluntary across the club staff, and no contracts were reneged upon.
While there may be more then one club outside the 65% rule, Dundalk are well within this limit
Wrong, we are not stupid enough to set our budget on the basis of winning a trophy. Also we knew and budgeted for at the start of the season the rent payable to SDCC. I would be hugely surprised if we made a loss this year since income has exceeded all expectations.In any event we will be making a loss this year as will every other top-flight club, including the Hoops ,unless they win a major Trophy for the first time in a generation. 100k p.a. for ground rental to SDCC has been a bit of a shocker for them given that they were led to believe they would be paying a peppercorn rent.
STOP PRESS!
REST OF LEAGUE IN BEGRUDGING SHAMS SUCCESS SHOCKER!
So long as your club is showing the rest of the league up by marketing the club well, and still having success on the pitch, without breaking the bank, you're going to have people who are bitter.
Eh? Lets see their accounts at the end of the year so.
The point I was making was that no matter how seemingly successful the club, no ones making a profit in this league. This seemingly salient and accurate point was ,admittedly, mere cover for an underhand attack on the "cup specialists"
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Wouldn't be suprised if Rovers don't make a loss, i mean they're even charging kids over 100 quid to be mascots and advertising it as a possible birthday present.
They always cheat, they always lie
**** Delaney and the FAI
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