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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    That leads to a related question- Coleraine could not play in Europe for three years due to their administration- are there any similar rules for examinership? There really should be.
    A very sensible question, relating to a very sensible punishment from the IFA for Coleraine. The FAI on the other hand happily stated at the end of last season that they would put Cork City forward for European competition if they qualified, despite their examinership.

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    I assume.

    I assume not paying(not being able to pay) players is in breach of having an A Licence or any Licence i suspect,yes??So how are Cork able to keep their licence?It goes for other clubs too im sure.4 or 5 clubs at the end of the season are in real danger of not getting their licence renewed.

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    As long as the players sign off on any deferrals then the clubs are sound license wise. Of course the players know that if they don't sign off and the club is out of the league then they will never get their money.
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    Credit must go to the players and staff for putting up with so much crap over the last couple of seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Credit must go to the players and staff for putting up with so much crap over the last couple of seasons.
    Yep, this is very true Cork players and staff have done exceptionally well this season bearing in mind the soap opera that the club has now become. carrying on as normal while their future was so "up in the air" must have been difficult and their results (given that players were not paid and in some cases moved on) have been very good. The players union and the FAI should do all they can to ensure this does not happen in the future (breath not held !)

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    Those statements would make you just laugh if the situation weren't so serious for the players and staff.

    They have been outstanding and in return have been walked all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by micls View Post
    Those statements would make you just laugh if the situation weren't so serious for the players and staff.

    They have been outstanding and in return have been walked all over.
    Ehhhhh If your post was in response to me then I suggest you read mine again. the very point I made was that the players/staff at CCFC have been exceptional this season given the extremely trying circumstances and that results are good bearing in mind all that has happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    Ehhhhh If your post was in response to me then I suggest you read mine again. the very point I made was that the players/staff at CCFC have been exceptional this season given the extremely trying circumstances and that results are good bearing in mind all that has happened.
    If my post was in response to you I would have quoted you

    My post as in response to the thread in general

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    When is the friendly with Celtic on?
    Next Wednesday.

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    Europe should'nt be the clubs main concern at all,it should be trying to get the club stating on a clean financial slate again .

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    When is the friendly with Celtic on?
    That can hardly matter, since they already gave the proceeds to the taxman.

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    Unless the proceeds don't repay the loan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by micls View Post
    If my post was in response to you I would have quoted you

    My post as in response to the thread in general
    As I was reminded previously if you respond to the preceeding post there is no need to quote ! Anyhoo, agree RE some of the stuff on this thread, really cannot imagine such a lack of understanding for workers in any other industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John83 View Post
    That can hardly matter, since they already gave the proceeds to the taxman.

    It does matter as the proceeds are dependant how many people turn up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macy View Post
    I see Coughlan still wants the focus on European Qualification... If they got a UEFA licence after this season, licencing would be more of a farce than usual.
    It's pretty simple really as to why Cork City have been let away with murder. If there were two Cork teams (in the Premier Division anyway) the FAI would've had no trouble in relegating/punishing City. Shels were relegated as there are lots of Dublin clubs to go round, but letting a leading light not just in Munster but in the league shrivel up and die was/is not an option as it would be a massive blow to football in this country.
    The FAI said that they wouldn't let senior football disappear in Limerick, so Cork is no different (and I agree in principle -no point having a 'Dublin' National League).

    However, you have to admit that any team gaining an advantage on the field and consequently on the league table by fielding teams they can't afford is gaining an unfair advantage -so a (sizeable) points deduction should be applied. Unfortunately, due to the recession, there are only 2 or 3 clubs who haven't hit financial trouble (though Dundalk's actions really do take the biscuit).

    In a sense, by all your players becoming free agents due to the non-payment of wages, maybe that's punishment enough?

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    I honestly think the FAI should punish every club that breaches the rules, even if that means 90% of the teams in the league and UCD being champions by default. It wouldn't make the league any more of a farce than it already is and might knock some sense into a few people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    I honestly think the FAI should punish every club that breaches the rules, even if that means 90% of the teams in the league and UCD being champions by default. It wouldn't make the league any more of a farce than it already is and might knock some sense into a few people.
    Of course the FAI should sanction every club that breaches the rules, without fear or favour. I have not heard any rational reason why they should not. On the other hand an FAI fudge simply further diminishes their integrity as a regulatory body, and effectively encourage more of the same from clubs.

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    Indeed, but I think in the past the tendency has been to take a softly, softly approach due the sheer widespread nature of non compliance.
    #NeverStopNotGivingUp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    ......due the sheer widespread nature of non compliance.
    It has been suggested and inferred on many threads that there is widespread non-complicance this season.

    Obviously Bohs have been the subject of interim sanctions by the FAI in relation to the 65% rule and speculation exists about others, particularly Cork, but obviously that will not become apparent for a while yet.

    Assuming that all other clubs manage to meet all players wage commitments by the due deadline, are there any other grounds for believing that any other club is likely to fall foul of complaince regulations?

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    Derry have to be flirting with the 65% rule as well given their income has been well down on expectations and the wage bill remains very high. There is also the question there of them owing transfer fees to Dungannon.
    #NeverStopNotGivingUp

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