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    Rules re: players gambling?

    I posted this in another thread, but only just realised it was confined to the St Pats forum so thought I might be able to get a better answer here.

    I was just wondering what the rules are re: betting? I thought/presumed players were banend from betting on themselves or their own team completely, so I'm fairly surprised to see at least one player currently on have on their Facebook status that they had made money on themselves scoring in a particular game?

    Not that it was a huge amount that he's bragging about winning, or that there was any hint of anything nefarious going on, just seems a little stupid to post to your facebook about it...then again maybe its not illegal/forbidden ?? Were the rules ever clarified after the Dempsey/Pats mess at the tail end of last season?

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    Fairly sure you're not allowed place a bet on any competition that you have direct influence on, or insider knowledge of (which sounds like a very gray area)

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    That's what I would have thought. The player I'm talking about has a facebook update saying he won x amount because he scored, underneath someone mentions that's probably illegal so he then clarifies that he didn't put the bet on himself. Then if you click to one of his friends pages he clearly says he had money on himself If the rules really are that he can't bet on himself, how stupid can you be announcing it the world?!
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    Could it just have been a bet with one of his mates? Or did he specifically say he bet with William Hill or something? There's probably still a regulation against it, but I'd say a blind eye is turned if he wants to put a €20 bet on with a mate of his, as well as it being almost impossible to enforce

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    I don't see anything wrong with what that player did. Now, if he layed that then it would be a different matter altogether.
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    I'd say he regrets accepting your friend invitation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peadar1987 View Post
    Could it just have been a bet with one of his mates? Or did he specifically say he bet with William Hill or something? There's probably still a regulation against it, but I'd say a blind eye is turned if he wants to put a €20 bet on with a mate of his, as well as it being almost impossible to enforce
    Nah, he specifically says he went to the bookies to pick up his winnings.

    I'd say he regrets accepting your friend invitation.
    I didn't even have to have any friend request accepted, he didn't even have the smarts to set his profile to private! I could explain how I came across it, it was purely innocent and not some sort of elaborate sting operation I mounted, but I wont explain as I don't particularly want to reveal who the player is since his only crime is naivety/stupidity!

    I don't see anything wrong with what that player did. Now, if he layed that then it would be a different matter altogether.
    I agree completely, but just wondered what the rules were as I was pretty sure any betting on a game you're involved in is against the rules. Not that there's any harm in him having a punt on himself on betfair before heading to the game, just seems more than a little silly to go on the record online that you did so when we all know how the FAI love an oul fine or suspension.
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    Jicked's elaborate sting operation: Day 5

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    Suddenly, a movement out of the alley beside the bookies. A figure emerges, hunched against the weather, looks both ways, and scurries into the bookies'. Jicked looks at the photo in his hand even though he doesn't need to. This is the one. This is the man he's been after.

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    Jicked's elaborate sting operation: Day 7

    Bottle of scotch on the table, getting empty now. The cigarette in the other, clouds of smoke float up to the fan in the ceiling. Photos on the desk, faces, betting slips. The stoolie from Inchicore hadn't told him much, and then Kenna's boys had got to him. The Saints gang ran that part of town, and they didn't take kindly to lowlives like Peschisolido talking to ex-cops like Jicked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jicked View Post
    Not that there's any harm in him having a punt on himself on betfair before heading to the game, just seems more than a little silly to go on the record online that you did so when we all know how the FAI love an oul fine or suspension.
    That means he'll be more likely to try and score himself, rather than trying for the team to score.
    It's against the rules, and IMO, you should report him (take screen prints too).

    That sort of stuff is rife in the IL, it's not the sort of thing we should tolerate in the LoI.
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    I'd be very surprised if this wasn't a common thing in the LOI. Players are just stupid if they place the bet themselves.
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    Jicked's elaborate sting operation: Day 11

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