Couldn't agree more.Originally Posted by Bungle
Sea us is class and seamus isn't half bad
That really was a cracking shot from Osman, just seen it again, the view from the back of the goal,
hits it with the outside of the boot and gets a wicked swerve on it. You might have thought he would
have got MOM for that but Sky Sports gives it to Coleman giving him a 9. The fans rating is 8.4 against
7.5 for Osman. Seen some of the second half and Coleman was going past player like they ere not there.
Alan McInally reporting on the game for Sky said Seamus was sensational. He also said Gibson was very very good. Tis a pity we have one but not the both.
He was simply brilliant today against some fairly serious opposition. Not only back to his best bit arrogant aka Roy Keane and Gareth Bale as in I know I'm the best player in this particular match.
Gibson was immense. Making sliding tackles. Playing killer through balls. Big loss on what I witnessed today
Gibson/McCarthy/Meyler would make a great midfield trio for the next decade.
And throw in Hendricks too and it is certainly looking okay. Unfortunately, our present manager doesn't seem to trust such creative players!
Which of those four is the creative player?
Gibson is mr creative all day long. if the 3 was gibson ,mccarthy and meyler i think you would have mccarthy and gibson sitting dictating the play and meyler pushing forward linking with the striker in an old townsend in poland in the 90s style
Which of them plays in a creative role for his club?
Gibson key creative force for everton dictates the play and everton have far worse record without him. Think we need to see midfield players as overall footballers rather than some idea that if your not floating around behind the striker and preferably 5 foot nothing you are not creative. Jack grealish will be in that position behind the striker in 2 years anyway so then we will have the creative midfielder we desire to replace wes
Gibson is a holding midfielder. He doesn't create anything. McCarthy is a holding player. Meyler is a box to box midfielder. I would be as critical of Trap as anyone for not giving these players more chances but I don't know why anybody would say it's because they're too creative. None of them is a particularly creative player. Hoolahan is a creative player.
He's more creative than other DMs due to his passing ability. Forward passes, 1st time passes, through balls, accurate long balls, etc. "He doesn't create anything" Hahahaha, he might not be top of the assist chart but he'll often be the pass setting up the attack in the first place.
OK, but he's not the type of player who pushes forward and makes things happen in the final third. He sits back and allows players like Pienaar and Osman to create goalscoring opportunities.
Carsley was a holding midfielder Charlie... you putting Gibson in that general category? i suupose my point is we can't just pigeonhole players. I think Gibson is what is considered a creative player who just happens to play deeper than what we think of when we think of that type of player that Irwin3 described.
Why is Gibson considered a creative player? I'm sure he could do a job further up the field but I've never seen him unlock defences in his career. He puts in good crosses and can play others into space, but he's not a creator of goalscoring opportunities.
for the reasons Irwin3 states.
He plays the midfield general position because he is the technically most accomplished footballer at everton. If he played at a better club he could absolutely play in the wes role float around get involved occasionally get praise when things go well never dominate a game and get taken off cause he was a luxury when you have a man sent off. Remember when he was at utd and ferguson wanted him behind the striker and everyone said he could never dominate a midfield and was there for his goals and long range shooting cause fergie couldnt possibly be wrong about a player!In the last 30 years I would only have him behind keane,brady,whelan and mcgrath as central midfielders for ireland.
So when did he do these things?
I remember Ferguson saying he could play the Frank Lampard box to box role alright. If he wanted him behind the striker he obviously changed his mind because he never tried him there. I will choose not to respond to your last sentence.
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