QuoteSo whats the plan for him NB? Are there enough of you of this mindset to mobilise and maybe try to block it ? Or to at least make him aware of his not being wanted and maybe he will fade away of his own accord?Originally Posted by Not Brazil
You left out the bit about him kissing the crest...
So whats the plan for him NB? Are there enough of you of this mindset to mobilise and maybe try to block it ? Or to at least make him aware of his not being wanted and maybe he will fade away of his own accord?
Yes, we know he's eligible.
He satisfies both Articles 16 & 18 of the FIFA Stautes, in terms of representing the IFA...as must all British Citizens, if they wish to play for us.
Because he is eligible, does not mean he should be selected.
He had his chance to represent Northern Ireland, and turned it down in order to represent the South.
I do not welcome his inclusion in the Northern Irish set up one iota.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Don't know how it can be blocked, but I'm sure plenty of Northern Ireland fans will let Bruce know what they think of his inclusion, if/when he makes his debut.
Last edited by Not Brazil; 03/07/2011 at 7:24 PM.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
Do they realise what the media will do with that?
I realise you cant legally block it as the guy is eligible, however I was thinking more of an organised campaign where the fans speak as one against this? Is there one yet? Or likely to be one?
After all, it is your team, Worthington will come and go, as will the players and administrators, but the supporters remain, and the side are out there representing you so surely if the strength of anti Bruce feeling can be properly orchestrated, your voice may be heard. DannyInvincible has recently paved the way on the eligibility matter and gotten some coverage in wider media.
An option perhaps?
About half a month ago, Worthington said the following: "I've just got to be patient like everybody else and see what the outcome is. When I spoke to him he's been very enthusiastic."
It's inconclusive but would it not imply that Worthington made the first approach with a proposal? Not that it's really that big of a deal. It's just a lot of NI fans seem to go on about who approached who first as if it determines the morality of the matter.
And couldn't you say that Bruce qualifies for NI because of one of these so-called political documents?
Say it ain't so, Alex.
I have more respect for those desperate to play than those who can't be arsed.
To be fair, he's one of the many, er, British-born players in the North's squad, so why would anyone care??
Fine. So Jermaine Pennant, Jamie O'Hara, Paddy Kenny, Stephen Ireland & Andy Reid all have no chance??
Last edited by ArdeeBhoy; 04/07/2011 at 9:37 AM.
If morality and ignorance are the same thing, then yes NI fans can take the moral high ground.
His situation is no different to a number of players in the NI squad, no? He couldn't make the team of his choice so he decided to throw his lot in with NI.
Why is he any different to Kane or O'Connor who, without major problem, seemed to be welcomed back to the IFA after spells with the FAI?
I'm sure they do.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
It is different.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
The fact that he is English born has little or nothing to do with it.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
I think he's been shown up as an opportunist, which most of us suspected.
From a NI fans' view, he's a ROI-reject-opportunist. It's worse.
So you agree players in the NI squad have settled for second best?
Not unlike players in the South's squad in that regard.
To cut a long story short, I think International football is being devalued by some of the shenanigans and opportunism that's going on.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
So some shenanigans and oppportunism is okay but "shenanigans and opportunism" is not okay as this devalues international football? Alex Bruce falls into the "shenanigans and opportunism" category?
Bruce would be the first player in the modern era that turns out for Northern Ireland, having represented another Nation at full International level.
He had his chance to play for Northern Ireland before - rather patronisingly, he chose not to.
I respect that decision, and do not want him in our squad now.
The Englishmen came over in the year 2005
But little did they know that we'd planned a wee surprise
Sir David scored the winner, and Windsor Park went wild
And this is what we sang...
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