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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    To be fair, there was next to no contact. Bojan stood on his foot and went straight down. There were three or four penalty shouts on Match of the Day the pundits said weren't enough contact to be a penalty and there was no more here.

    Problem was James went down to making it look like there was a lot of contact when there was little contact
    it looked like a dive to me but with James going down too it looked bad, not sure what James was doing there.
    I think it was more the guy ran into James and they both went down, ie he actually brought down James,
    I don't think James wanted to bring him down because there was not that much danger but the guy ran across him.

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    I thought it was a penalty myself. Not a heinous foul but a foul nonetheless. Walters should have been sent off, and Barry was lucky too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    I thought it was a penalty myself. Not a heinous foul but a foul nonetheless. Walters should have been sent off, and Barry was lucky too.
    My first though was it was a penalty but if a player kicks the ball across you like that and then runs across you
    it is kind of hard to not make contact with the back of his legs But I guess it is up to McCarthy to make sure that
    does not happen otherwise it is pretty inevitable a penalty will be given.

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    Exactly. Nothing wrong with playing to win a penalty. It's quite different to faking being hit.

    I thought what James did yesterday was quite similar to what Paul criticises Coleman for doing, often with good reason.

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    Are you saying James was a penalty waiting to happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Are you saying James was a penalty waiting to happen?
    It's already happened Charlie that was a recording, the game was played yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Exactly. Nothing wrong with playing to win a penalty. It's quite different to faking being hit.

    I thought what James did yesterday was quite similar to what Paul criticises Coleman for doing, often with good reason.

    I think I know what you mean, but a video of Coleman the same would be helpful.
    The thing is though, Coleman usually gets away with it.
    I think the fact McCarthy seemed to dive too won him no favours from the ref.
    Last edited by tricky_colour; 27/12/2014 at 3:30 PM.

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    Hence the use of past tense, tricko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Hence the use of past tense, tricko.
    Got your r's and h's mixed up there Charlie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    Coleman - 2
    McGeady - 1 (Opening day)
    Long - 2 (In same match)
    Walters - 3
    Clark - 1

    18 games in and 9 goals scored by Irish players. Safe to say it's on course to be the worst ever PL season from an Irish goalscoring standpoint?

    Not helped by Long playing out of position and Walters being taken off penalty taking duties. But you would think Brady's returning to fitness, Quinn getting more game time and McGeady, being a decent scorer in Russia, would have balanced this somewhat.

    Hopefully my attempt at reverse psychology works but it's just hard to see where and when the goals are going to come from.

    Speaking of McGeady & Gibson, I am amazed at the lack of game time they are getting. I am aware that Gibson is injured at the moment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    Tets will be able to do a comparison for you but since Keane left there hasn't been a great season for goals, I don't think.
    Walters has four goals in the league this season, not three, so it's ten goals so far this season before New Year's Day, which is the lowest total since I started compiling appearance data for Irish players. The current record low scoring season is 2010-2011 with 16 goals scored before January 1st and the most goals scored was the following season, when there were 32 goals scored by Irish players
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    McCarthy was taken off at half-time on Sunday as he was feeling more effects of his hamstring injury: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30869368.html

    Ah but sure he missed the Scotland game because he was too afraid to face his real country.

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    He's a fragile young fella.
    Lets talk about six baby

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    That must be the 16th time you have made that same joke Charlie. Never gets old.

    And yes, James must be the 9th or 10th Everton player to get this kind of injury this season.

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    Who said it was a joke?

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    Dunno but it made Martin O'Neil laugh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    Speaking of McGeady & Gibson, I am amazed at the lack of game time they are getting. I am aware that Gibson is injured at the moment.
    What amazes you about a regularly injured player seeing little game time exactly?

    Quote Originally Posted by tricky_colour View Post
    Problem was James went down to making it look like there was a lot of contact when there was little contact
    it looked like a dive to me but with James going down too it looked bad, not sure what James was doing there.
    Well, he obviously didn't fall over intentionally to make it look like he had fouled the guy.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks View Post
    That must be the 16th time you have made that same joke Charlie. Never gets old.
    Hits a nerve, does it? How many times did you accuse McCarthy of faking injury (or Martinez of faking his player's injury) again?...

    And yes, James must be the 9th or 10th Everton player to get this kind of injury this season.
    A team of fraudsters following their manager's example, no doubt!

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    Aren't Everton supposed to have some fitness guru who plans their training to avoid these type of injuries? Arsenal always have players out with strains and pulls, so much so that Wenger called for an investigation into their training methods and I even think they hired a guy full time recently to consult. But I think I remember Everton being highlighted last season (when they beat Arsenal 3-0) as an example of a team that was benefitting from a very sophisticated approach to these things.

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    McCarthy misses out today completely with his hamstring problem
    Good article from Everton fansite "Grand Old Team" on him: Everton's lynchpin: http://www.grandoldteam.com/2015/01/...tons-linchpin/
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    @ Danny

    The bone of contention would be McCarthy missing a game he was adjudged fit enough to participate in. Not adjudged by me but by his managers and doctors. The fact that virtually an entire team has missed game time this season due to similar injuries also raises the possibility that, perhaps, unlikely though it is, the injury that McCarthy has been dealing with is not married to the one he allegedly missed a Scotland game with. Perhaps it's just a coincidence. Just look at the sheer number of Everton players that have had problems due to lack of rotation among other things. But I'm sure you know better than Martin, Roy and the Irish medical staff, Danny, so I will delegate to you.

    http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30874567.html

    McCarthy linked with a move to Arsenal. No idea how his present injury problems may affect this move. Wenger is normally very pernickety about these things.
    Last edited by TheOneWhoKnocks; 01/01/2015 at 3:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    McCarthy misses out today completely with his hamstring problem
    Good article from Everton fansite "Grand Old Team" on him: Everton's lynchpin: http://www.grandoldteam.com/2015/01/...tons-linchpin/
    As a follow up to this article, I've crunched the numbers on McCarthy's appearances for Everton since joining and you can read the results here: http://irish-abroad.appspot.com/Blog...58226553370010
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