I'm not saying it isn't a foul, I'm not even saying it isn't a red card... but is Bale not just desperately trying to reach the cross to score but O'Shea gets there before him? He looks miles late in the super slow mo but in real time it's split second stuff? I certainly don't think it's a 'let's ruff them up' kind of tackle anyway and I do think Taylor's is a fair bit worse.
In real time in the ground (that's right, Paul O'Shea) I thought it was a red.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Taylor's was split second stuff too. It's irrelevant. That's football. From experience, there's still time to pull out of (or modify) a challenge.
From the comfort of my couch :) , Bale's tackle was ridiculously late, studs up and high. Bad (or sick!) person.
Your couch? You'll never get into the YBIG real fans whatsapp group with that attitude.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Both were awful. Taylor was miles off the ground and studs at a 90 degree angle to Coleman's shin. Coward's challenge. O'Shea got lucky with Bales.
People talking about whether it was premeditated. I don't think he thought 5 minutes before I'm gonna do this lad. It's a snap decision and he took the cowards option. No danger of hurting himself but might hurt the opponent. Bale did the same. Professionals know this, it was a cnuts challenge. Feet in the air and out of control.
Had Taylor got the ball and been penalised anyway the Alan Hansens of this world would be moaning about the game going soft and that you can't tackle anymore, it's a non-contact sport now.
But getting the ball is the only thing that stops a reckless challenge not being a foul don't ya know.
I think the majority on here certainly felt that way when McClean broke Milik up.
The pundits' desperate attempts to find evidence that the ball had been slightly kissed by the tackler, in order to absolve the foul?Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
However it's not all a non-contact sport, there's still room for the classic sliding tackle
Sometimes clearly getting the ball in the tackle does genuinely absolve the act of first clattering into the attacking player
Vardy felled
Stephen Elliott's take on the key ref decisions.
https://www.sportdec.com/app/article...119f4dn6k72n9g
I agree almost completely but I see the rugby analogy at the end as a bit of a red herring. There's no doubt referees are shown more respect in rugby but the players' attitude to the ref was a non-issue on Friday. Players' lack of respect for their opponents was the big issue in our game. I'm not sure France showed much respect for Wayne Barnes or the spirit of the game in general when they declared a head injury assessment was warranted last week.
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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I thought Stephen was being sarcastic when he wrote re rugby " We never see refereeing decisions taking over it's post match headlines."
Was that not the photo of the time when Rory Best challenged the ref about protection for Sexton? Perhaps not.
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